Aggressive, get real. I stand by what I said, Bevan was great winger, the other three were better rugby players.

Firstly, I said passive aggressive - look it up if you don't know what it means. Secondly, I was talking about your general posting style on here, not your view on Brian Bevan in respect of which I'm struggling to think of something I care less about.



OK pumpkin?

How childish some users on here are, that a thread about the great player Brian Bevan has ended up into one of throwing childish insults at an older poster who has actually seen Bevan play not just read about him like we have. You should learn a bit of respect.

Which is all you need to know about the "great" Brain Bevan.

It is annoying when you are shown up by stupid trolls, Sally.



Fair and balanced discussion with someone who has seen the guy play would be refreshing. Not a dick measuring competition putting him down and saying BB (who happened to play at Wigan) was the much better player out of the two of them, just because he had played in more positions (so by Rogues logic Grix is better than Joey Johns) Then misquoting BB and finally saying he wasn't one of the all time greats (merely a great winger).

Well I saw nearly every game that Brian Bevan played between 1947 and 1962. Apart from the excitement every time he touched the ball, the reason he was the greatest was that he took a generally mediocre team - Warrington - and made them into a team who were always contenders and sometimes worldbeaters. Boston, Vollenhoven and Hanley were all greats but all of them played in great teams and none had the transforming effect that Bevan did. Neil Fox was the nearest to Bev in those terms. Bevan could do things which were technically impossible and there has never been anyone remotely like him since.

I didn't see anything Rogues said that put Bevan down, he's allowed to think someone else was a better player. In fact I've never heard anyone outside Warrington fans regard Bevan as the greatest player of all time. The argument about playing in the more pivotal positions is a fair one, remember the outrage on here a couple of years ago when Pat Richards got Man of Steel ahead of Michael Monaghan, people said how could a winger possibly be regarded as the most influential player? Also if Rogues was being so biased why did he have to put a Warrington great (Murphy) as one of his choices for greatest player of all time ahead of greats like Hanley, Edwards, Gregory and Bell?

I agree with Sally. Rogues is perfectly entitled to pass an opinion. After all he did watch all four of the players he mentioned (I missed Bev, but saw the other three). My opinion of Bevan was based on his stats, which are unbelievable, books (The Great Bev is a superb read), the occasional bit of film, and things that people who saw him have told me. Anyone who could put 5,000 on the gate just by appearing must have been something really special.

I would also refer anyone to Billy Boston himself when in an argument re Bevan, his opinion as someone who played against him is something to be valued.

, looloo and, maybe, SoL had all had equally or more impressive years) . If I remember correctly, the concern was not that Pat had had a good point scoring tally or that he had more or less remained consistent in his point scoring (not necessarily due to his ability to score or lead- he was in a truly ahead of their time Wigan team full of class- kicks came easy) the concern came that the 'man of Steel' trophy was going to a kicker where previous winners (Graham and Roby) were moulded as go forward leaders (befitting the title man of STEEL). However,Pat Richards is one of the best wingers to come to super league (Wigan fans would say THE best- and they have every right to think that)



Knowing Rogues (which I thankfully don't) it is probably because Murphy spent more time at St Helens and Leigh, than he did at Warrington. Bevan was, too all intents etc, a 'one club man' and that club was Warrington. The same way some people have a blind gut reaction to the Wigan greats (like Hanley and Offiiah) Rogues has that reaction to Warrington players, it appears- especially WArrington youth set-up

I hated KC, but I can admit he is one of the best hookers I've seen (and probably to ever play the game)

As Ian stated, no one is having a go at the players or who was better. It is Rogues tiresome e a few people are sick of.