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| Quote NSW="NSW"Blind loyalty to Smith with some of my Warrington mates
Wire win - Tony smith is God!
Wire lose - Agar out!'"
ridiculous isnt it.
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| Quote Mark="Mark"Name some players of this endless list? I'm sure you will have links to prove it as well with there being so many.'"
I believe this has already been done for me in another thread but for starters:
Wood
Higham
Monaghan (j)
Hodgson
Carvell
Penny
Lineham
And they are just a few done in public. Rumours about cliques in the club have been around a while. Open your eyes something clearly stinks.
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| Quote Mark="Mark"
I honestly don't think we're too far away.'"
Hill said last night we were "miles off".
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| Quote Mark="Mark"Did Agar not have any influence in getting us to within 10 points of winning everything last year? or is it just this year he's responsible for?'"
Your refer to our Challenge Cup Final loss in support of your argument. Do you recall that was the culmination of 3 wins Oldham, Widnes and Wakefield?
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Your refer to our Challenge Cup Final loss in support of your argument. Do you recall that was the culmination of 3 wins Oldham, Widnes and Wakefield?'"
and yet if we had won the CC a lot of fans would have put the season down as a success yet finish top of a league structure after 30 games is completely worthless
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| I'm firmly in the 'Time for Smith to move on' camp.
HOWEVER.
There is no point sacking him until we have a world class replacement ready to step in. Who is there? People crying out for Powell need to give their head a wobble, he's won sod all an all and even if he was a winner he's hardly going to walk out on Cas this season with the rugby he's got them playing. Agar should walk the plank if smith is going an all and Briersy isn't ready... Right now there is no one.
Jib Agar off. He's deadwood we can't afford to be carrying and it'll send a message out. Make Briers first assistant.
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"and yet if we had won the CC a lot of fans would have put the season down as a success yet finish top of a league structure after 30 games is completely worthless'"
Had we won the CC, I would have said that was a success.
That is rightly or wrongly what the definition of success is, in the competitions we compete in.
We can comfort ourselves with the fact we've been the "best" team in the competition on a couple of occasions with the LLS, but success is GF and CC wins.
Walk away as losing finalists in the two main competitions that count, great to be there, better than those that only made it to the semis. But success? No.
Win one or both? Of course that's a success.
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| Quote moving on...="moving on..."I'm firmly in the 'Time for Smith to move on' camp.
HOWEVER.
There is no point sacking him until we have a world class replacement ready to step in. Who is there? People crying out for Powell need to give their head a wobble, he's won sod all an all and even if he was a winner he's hardly going to walk out on Cas this season with the rugby he's got them playing. Agar should walk the plank if smith is going an all and Briersy isn't ready... Right now there is no one.
Jib Agar off. He's deadwood we can't afford to be carrying and it'll send a message out. Make Briers first assistant.'"
Mind you, the prospect of Lee Briers being responsible for training does make me pause for thought
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| Quote moving on...="moving on..."There is no point sacking him until we have a world class replacement ready to step in.'"
So, do we just keep on losing game after game with a disgruntled set of players, whom the coach appears to have lost.... All because there isnt a world class replacement to take over immediately?
or do we make a change, try and lift the morale of the players and the fans and go again, in an attempt to not end up in the million pound game.
I dont care who it is, but we need change. Even its if temporary until the end of the season. These players need another leader before its too late.
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"So, do we just keep on losing game after game with a disgruntled set of players, whom the coach appears to have lost.... All because there isnt a world class replacement to take over immediately?
or do we make a change, try and lift the morale of the players and the fans and go again, in an attempt to not end up in the million pound game.
I dont care who it is, but we need change. Even its if temporary until the end of the season. These players need another leader before its too late.'"
I've been laughed at and told I don't know what I'm going on about but I'd give Agar the chop. He has a loosing mentality and that mentality spreads. I think that would be enough to make players sit up and think "bloody hell, we better buck our ideas up." If not then give Smith a golden handshake and say taraa.
I'd be reluctant to give smith the boot first. Lets see what would happen with Briers as his No.2 first.
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"
or do we make a change, try and lift the morale of the players and the fans and go again, in an attempt to not end up in the million pound game.
I dont care who it is, but we need change. Even its if temporary until the end of the season. These players need another leader before its too late.'"
Iestyn Harris talks a lot of sense on the radio and seems to know where our problems are.
Could bring Kevin Ellis and Clive Griffiths with him who he worked with in the Wales job.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Iestyn Harris talks a lot of sense on the radio and seems to know where our problems are.
Could bring Kevin Ellis and Clive Griffiths with him who he worked with in the Wales job.'"
club legend as well.. adored by the fans... bring him home.
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