I totally agree, and it's indicative of how low people's expectations of half backs have fallen generally, and of Myler in particular, that people are still sticking up for him.

Speed....that just might be the answer!

There's a certain longfellow with connections we hear.

This isn't a new thing.



This is exactly what was said after we lost the Challenge Cup quarter final to Wigan in 2011.



We finished top of the table that season, then won the Challenge Cup the next year and won the next two Grand Finals with essentially the same bunch of backs that we have got now. These were some of the highest scoring backs in the league.



Speed IMO is overrated a bit, there are lots of examples of backs that have genuine pace but don't make much impact in SL.



The big difference is that these backs used to have a Monaghan at his best and Briers orchestrating them around the field and they were unstoppable.



Now we don't have that it wouldn't matter if we had a back line full of Kevin Pennys, we wouldn't look any better.



Unfortunately the other problem is that some of our back line are not the players they were and the decline was already creeping in last season.

Are you still mentally scarred by those GF defeats, Sally?....

Everything seems better when you look back at it with nostalgia see the Andy Gregory thread.



We would have won last year's if we'd picked Hodgson so that one counts as a win at least.

I've also read on here that Smith and his coaching staff don't do attacking moves in training either, preferring to let the players do it off-the-cuff, so to speak.... If all this is true, it makes you think what the fook Tony Smith actually does do with the players in training - Weights, quick stint with the tackling bags and then all off to Tony's for lunch?

Whatever Tony Smith does with the players it has brought greater success than any Warrington side since Bevan's era.

I agree (I should have used a little smilie perhaps?) - It just makes me chuckle when you read all the various stuff about what Smith does or doesn't do in training.... If you believe it all then it sounds like he is RL's Mike Bassett...