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| It's hard to hold back on you KW, but this time I will. Westwood was tremendous tonight. I think Myler suffered because Sinfield seemed totally lost playing at 6. He and Peacock were picked on past reputation, not on recent performance, and Ryan Hall looked like he'd been training at MacDonalds all week. Myler was actually involved in 2 try saving tackles, as was Sam, but as has often been said on this site, his style of play is not being the number one organiser, he just is not that type of player, and there is no point in McNamara putting him in that role.
By the way, how did the TV thing go?
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| Myler just still has to add a LOT more to his game for me to be considered regularly for England.
He is a fantastic support player, probably the best in the league, but to be on the shoulder of a break, you have to create the opportunities in the first place. Those type of chances come steadily in SL, and against France, but against the top sides they need to be created and as such you can't rely on only 1 HB to do that. Unfortunately for England tonight there were no half backs, just a great run from James Graham (who is a half back in his head tbf!).
Lomax would have been in the side tonight ahead of Sinfield for me, Myler would still probably have made the side but probably just through lack of other options at the minute.
He is still very young though, and is still one of the better players in the league. He needs to just start stalking Briers so he can at least begin to show some semblance of being able to control a side.
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| Quote Teessidewire="Teessidewire"It's hard to hold back on you KW, but this time I will. Westwood was tremendous tonight. I think Myler suffered because Sinfield seemed totally lost playing at 6. He and Peacock were picked on past reputation, not on recent performance, and Ryan Hall looked like he'd been training at MacDonalds all week. Myler was actually involved in 2 try saving tackles, as was Sam, but as has often been said on this site, his style of play is not being the number one organiser, he just is not that type of player, and there is no point in McNamara putting him in that role.
By the way, how did the TV thing go?'" Sinfield shouldn't be near a england shirt is is dire
I put the blame on big mac for playing myler because he cant change the way he plays overnight and his style is not what england need, we needed brough but sods law took that option away from us
I posted players on our forum players who need dropping for me are-Hall,Myler,Sinfield,peacock and i'll add morley why whelam and yeaman didn't get picked is pretty mind boggling
The show is tomorrow i booked ibis but had to unbook it cause my mate couldn't come down tonight so we are having a road trip set off at 5am 
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| Quote king warrior="king warrior"Sinfield shouldn't be near a england shirt is is dire
I put the blame on big mac for playing myler because he cant change the way he plays overnight and his style is not what england need, we needed brough but sods law took that option away from us
I posted players on our forum players who need dropping for me are-Hall,Myler,Sinfield,peacock and i'll add morley why whelam and yeaman didn't get picked is pretty mind boggling
The show is tomorrow i booked ibis but had to unbook it cause my mate couldn't come down tonight so we are having a road trip set off at 5am
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Maybe go back to the old days and play a full Wigan side eh KW....?
Do you honestly think Yeaman and Welham are better options at centre than Bridge and Shenton...?
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| Quote MikeyWire="MikeyWire"Maybe go back to the old days and play a full Wigan side eh KW....?
Do you honestly think Yeaman and Welham are better options at centre than Bridge and Shenton...?'" No dont go back to the olds days and play all wigan i like the mix of players from diffrent teams
Yeaman and welham are the 2 options i would have chose over bridge and shenton
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| Welham, no, no and no again
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| Quote Horatio Yed="Horatio Yed"Welham, no, no and no again'"
Bridge looked poor, but all the backs did cos they recieved no service from the halfbacks.
I'd have McGillvary in for Hall, keep Shenton and Bridge but just try and get some quick ball to the backs.
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| Yeaman deserves a place, but would he have done better Bridge and Shenton tonight?
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| I've said this time and time again
In International football, you HAVE to play people in their PROPER positions
If we already have someone better in that particular position, the coach MUST be ruthless, and either not play the superfluous player at all, or you have him on the subs bench. Why does Sinfield (a loose forward) play stand off? Do we HAVE to play him? NO WE DON'T. McBanana should have had some balls, and said to him 'sorry Kevin, I prefer someone else at LF, so I'm not picking you in the starting 13', but here we go again...we HAVE to find a place for him....CRAP....
We've been doing this for 15 years+ now, playing players out of position.
If a scratch team can beat us, on our territory, when we've played people out of position, what's a fully committed Aussie team going to do to us?
Play a team in their correct positions...and B0110cks to their reputations
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| Quote MikeyWire="MikeyWire"Maybe go back to the old days and play a full Wigan side eh KW....?
Do you honestly think Yeaman and Welham are better options at centre than Bridge and Shenton...?'"
No but it's frightening from an England pov to think that George Carmont at 33 years of age was the best centre on the pitch tonight.
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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"I've said this time and time again
In International football, you HAVE to play people in their PROPER positions
If we already have someone better in that particular position, the coach MUST be ruthless, and either not play the superfluous player at all, or you have him on the subs bench. Why does Sinfield (a loose forward) play stand off? Do we HAVE to play him? NO WE DON'T. McBanana should have had some balls, and said to him 'sorry Kevin, I prefer someone else at LF, so I'm not picking you in the starting 13', but here we go again...we HAVE to find a place for him....CRAP....
We've been doing this for 15 years+ now, playing players out of position.
If a scratch team can beat us, on our territory, when we've played people out of position, what's a fully committed Aussie team going to do to us?
Play a team in their correct positions...and B0110cks to their reputations'"
I agree completely. BUT Sinfield has played most of this season so far at Stand Off. He's still crap mind but if people say Joel Tomkins should now be considered a centre, same goes for Sinfield.
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