Agree Widnes have been improving lots, and we have a strong pack with Kite getting fitter and O Carroll as an addition. Widnes should have beat Catalans and Saints at home,so we are no pushovers anymore, like Salford think we are to be honest.Our team spirit is brilliant and onwards and upwards for Widnes.

What does that make Salford?



I recall some Salford supporters shouting "Widnes Superleague? You're having a laugh".



If I recall, and I think I am right, we beat Huddersfield, Wigan, and only lost to Saints by one point. And we had Mr Hicks for that game!

Old Viking dont forget Catalans at home too and also smashing Castleford.They do not see we are improving or dont want us to be improve?

Aside from just before half time when two players gave up chasing your lad going in in the corner. It looked to me at that point like they couldn't give a toss.

I get why some fans want to stop goin but cant you see thats the problem. We need all the fans to come so we cam get to the 8k fans and spend full cap. Then we CAN compeete. Yes well see a few beatings like friday but in the long run for puttin up with that, we'll eventually get a good side. People who havent even been to new ground.....shame on you. We had to move with the times.....time you did too.

People have been saying that for donkey's years now. It's no wonder people are getting fed up, particularly with all the promises and disappointments surrounding the stadium move.

Salford are trapped.They aren't a big club because the team is never quite good enough.The team is never quite good enough because there isn't enough money to improve the squad.The crowds won't get bigger because the floating fan won't come unless the team consistantly wins.Therefore its all self perpetuating,no money, team not good enough,team not good enough no extra fans and no extra money and so on.

Hogwash. All our problems could be solved by marketing. And possibly sacking some people.

Yep,if in doubt sack a few.

Never fails !

[i"Dans ce pays-ci, il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres"[/i - Voltaire in 1759 obviously knew a thing or two about running a rugby club

Never made it past Madame Bovary,myself, despite Millwards best endeavours.

Surely Tarry going fulfils your 'pour encourager les autres' philosophy.

I don't like the basic premise that firing some poor unfortunates who,despite maybe having limitations,have been giving of their best,will somehow sort the problems.

Having said that,quoting Voltaire raises the quality on here somewhat.

Sartre next?

Un bon mot ne prouve rien.