I wonder if it has anything to do with the choice and timing of our interchanges.

We were still in the game at 37 minutes, but tbh, Widnes were exceptional today. If they played like that all season they would be fighting for top 4 never mind top 8.

Great coaching too, they never stopped attacking Fages and Murphy, and got results almost every time. Brown ran the game for them and everything he did came off, including that 40/20.

Big lesson for us, if we are going to rely on our attack and concede that we are poor defensively, that's fine, but we had 3 sets early on with good field position, and came back with nothing.

Bad day at the office for us, Widnes have bought well, I hope their crowds increase as its a town that deserves Super League success.

Not great coaching at our end,was it?

Betts did his homework on the Bulls game and attacked our right side.

If people on this forum highlighted it last week,why was there no change.

I know we are short of players but we were also short of nous.

The pack was ok but ,defensively out wide,we were appalling.

Also Sneyd was out of position so often ,it was a joke.

I assume the defensive formation was laid down by the coaches ,so it's them as much as the players.

Depressing!

We pulled it back to within one score, we had them pinned on their line and then Wild gave away a penalty and they scored off the resulting set. It drives me mad how we throw away good situations like that and it was so predictable that they wold score right on the hooter as well. That one came from a position where we had them contained in midfield, they threw one long pass to our right and were through again.



That was game over and then the second half was nightmarish at times. Bonita Red is right - it is depressing about the coaching not addressing the right hand defence. Time and again they had 2 or 3 to one against Murphy, there was little he could do about it. Widnes obviously spotted that Gaskell went off early on and took advantage of the lack of numbers on that side.



Our defence down that side is bad enough at the best if times never mind when we are without a centre. It looked like Ashurst and Dixon were supposed to be doubling but the gap between them and Fages always too big, no communication and no cover



Fair play to Widnes, there backing up was superb and some of the passing was sublime, especially from Hanbury. But to be honest we made it a lot easier for them than it should have been

Allowing the opposition to score the first try in the opening minutes doesn't help,either.

Gets the crowd right behind them.

It was the other 10 tries that bothered me more

It was Jon Clarke who kicked the 40/20 iirc.

**puts tin hat on**



Its phycological imo we have conceeded tries before and after ht since I can remember regardless of the situation we find ourselves in.



Better in game micro management is needed by the players by taking responsibility and a mind coach to make the players be proactive not reactive in certain situations at certain times of the game MAY intime allow our players to actually be positive in this area and even score tries both before and after ht



Pipe dream at the mo tho imo. Imagine a salford team asking the questions and coming up with the answers at this crutial time in any game. One day.........

Now I wish I'd thought of that.

Sorry,but I was just hoping for a better defensive formation and stronger tackling.

Far from defending an inept display SCR were heavily depleted in the threequarters with Williams, Gleeson, Gibson and after 20 minutes Gaskell missing.



Our strength in depth is paper thin and will be until the end of the season. The coaches are just using Elastoplast at the minute but I too was despondent to see virtually every try scored down our right flank.



We need more personnel from somewhere to avoid similar thrashings.

EB speaks the truth. Consign it to history and let's move on. The exciting thing is that this team will be utterly different this time next year. This year can be seen as a marker for those playing personnel to stake a claim for next season. If they don't shape-up they'll be gone. We need the new coach in asap to start the foundations for next year.



I'm still pretty excited at the prospect of a proper pre-season, new coach, new personnel on and off-field to really see what we can do.

Here we go again...



It has nothing to do with mindset of the players. It has everything to do with being unable to defend. Every time they attacked that right hand side of our defence they scored, whether it was just before half time, just after, or at any other point in the game.



Get the defence right and you solve the problem, simple.