Wheeler

I'd say 20st is big

I've not read though anything.wil give proper analysis tomorrow. As things stand in disgusted

Saints were great.

We were blown away at first but then we defended exceptionally well for the rest of the first half.

Their third try was the killer and it was downhill after that.

Didn't understand the kicking game at all. That's Smith's strength usually.

Tasi and Hansen were surprisingly quiet and,apart from Hock,our attack was very weak.

That Saints team will put bigger scores past better teams who have been together longer.

Saints would have probably beaten anyone on their performance. It was a massive arm wrestle the whole match and we had no spark in attack which was the difference. I'm not overly bothered. The team never stopped trying and will get better and better.

If Saints play that well all season, they will win trophies. I doubt they would've played that well against the team we had last year - I really think that they raised their game, expecting a bigger battle.

My only criticism is that our kicking game was poor, perhaps when Chase is back it will take some pressure off Smith and this part of his game will improve? Walsh was exceptional for them.

Let's get 2 points from Widnes, and let's take that game seriously as a marker for improvement, then let's look at Wire - I mean, Myler and Ratchford shouldn't scare us!

Bonita Red - Please get your Dinner Party mate Nobby to abandon his 5 aimless drives and aimless kick/up and under tactics. Drives me mad and so predictable. Where are you Rangi when needed?

Saints were my tip to win the whole thing before a ball had been kicked, last night they shown why. Whilst they didn't do anything spectacular they did the basics so well. They were tough in defence, quick round the PTB and and moved the ball outwide quick. Add Mase Masoe to those forwards and they've got a formidable pack with a set of even better backs.



I don't think we'll play a better team all season and I don't think we'll play any worse. Had we scored at 12-0 when we were on their line it would have been different, we were the better team for the opening 10-15 of the second half but instead Saints went the full length and put the game to bed



Last night was never going to define our season, or show far we've come, as the Wakefield or London game wouldn't. Still too many individuals playing and I wouldn't expect this to change until after 12 games in.



We obviously missed Rangi massively on the left side, Griffin also.



Dust ourselves down and go again at Widnes next week, these are the games we should be winning.

You've correctly identified him as a troll, and not even an imaginative one, as he keeps it at the "I'm lonely, please be my friend" level of "your team's crap, your crowds are low". Then you spoil your good work by responding. Someone responds, he gets excited, he comes back.



Ignore him. It's like troll bleach.

Saints were outstanding. Their forwards took the ball at full pace, helped massively by the quality of James Roby, and this enabled them to bust through tackles and get the ball away. Our forwards, on the other hand, seemed to be jogging when they received the ball and then had to accelerate, giving Saints time to gang up. I can't recall a single offload all night. Morley made some good yards, but why does he do that little 'shilly-shally' when he gets the ball? Surely, he'd be more effective if he just ran at the defence. On the back of the lack of 'go-forward', the halves were swamped and our kicking game was pants. The only decent kick we put in all night was Stuart Howarth's near the end. Hopefully, this is all a timing issue and will improve as the season goes on.



I guess our MoM was Hock or Morley. Hope Hock's OK for the Widnes match.

After the game there was a muppet in the fans bar trying to kick off with myself and a friend when he heard us say that Saints will be the team to beat this season. Think we say last night the team everyone will have to beat and if I were a gambler I'd stick a bucket full off money on them to win the CC.



Luke Walsh could be the best overseas signing a team has made in a very long time, the way he ran the game last night was a throw back to when Long was at Saints and again they were the team to beat.



As for Salford I think if anyone thought we'd go through the season without the odd drubbing is a little naive, you can't make such wholesale changes to a playing rosta and not occasionally get out played and forget the game play.