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| EB speaks the truth. Consign it to history and let's move on. The exciting thing is that this team will be utterly different this time next year. This year can be seen as a marker for those playing personnel to stake a claim for next season. If they don't shape-up they'll be gone. We need the new coach in asap to start the foundations for next year.
I'm still pretty excited at the prospect of a proper pre-season, new coach, new personnel on and off-field to really see what we can do.
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| Here we go again...
It has nothing to do with mindset of the players. It has everything to do with being unable to defend. Every time they attacked that right hand side of our defence they scored, whether it was just before half time, just after, or at any other point in the game.
Get the defence right and you solve the problem, simple.
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| Have to agree with GT on this. It's not a mental issue this, its a "Switch on for the full 80" issue, simple as.
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| Quote GT="GT"Here we go again...
It has nothing to do with mindset of the players. It has everything to do with being unable to defend. Every time they attacked that right hand side of our defence they scored, whether it was just before half time, just after, or at any other point in the game.
Get the defence right and you solve the problem, simple.'"
Correct.
We have 4 centres out,if you include Nero,so it was always going to be difficult.
It was obvious that Widnes would attack that side,as Bradford had done,but nothing was done about it.
At half time,it was screaming out for a tactical switch but it didn't happen.
I'm not advocating switching Broughton from left wing to right centre at half time ,and I know we were short of options but they had to try something different and didn't.
We do have to move on,but we also have a right to tell it as we see it
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| Quote Bonita Red="Bonita Red"Correct.
I'm not advocating switching Broughton from left wing to right centre at half time ,and I know we were short of options but they had to try something different and didn't.
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Good comment Bonita - That would have been a very simple choice and should have been made without doubt.
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| Quote Ayres Rock="Ayres Rock"Have to agree with GT on this. It's not a mental issue this, its a "Switch on for the full 80" issue, simple as.'"
Isn't being 'switched on' a mental issue that comes from what's inside your head?
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| Quote theredshed="theredshed"Isn't being 'switched on' a mental issue that comes from what's inside your head?'"
i would say it's more to do with fitness and having enough in the tank to function for the 40 mins each half. Having played the game, i never once thought "Oh it's 5 mins till half time can look forward to half time". i would say though as fitness levels drained from playing full half's that i was more likely to not stick to the game plan or move in as i would have in the first 5 minutes.
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| No amount of shuffling would made much difference , we are still a scratch side made up of last yrs U20's & 2-3 loanees , on the 3rd game in 10 days and it showed ,
Widnes were able to bring in Phelps & Brown Fresh , whilst Clarke , Allen & O'Carroll & Hanbury had been rested for the Easter Monday game so had had a Full week to recover , whilst Owen & Pickersgill hadn't played the previous friday. So 8 of the Widnes Team had played 1 or 2 games less .
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| Quote The optimist="The optimist"**puts tin hat on**
Its phycological imo we have conceeded tries before and after ht since I can remember regardless of the situation we find ourselves in.
Better in game micro management is needed by the players by taking responsibility and a mind coach to make the players be proactive not reactive in certain situations at certain times of the game MAY intime allow our players to actually be positive in this area and even score tries both before and after ht
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It seems what works for individuals and teams is [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/dr-steve-peters-the-psychiatrist-charged-with-ridding-anfield-of-the-fear-factor-8554166.htmlManaging The Chimps[/url
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| Quote SCR-SeaDiver="SCR-SeaDiver"It seems what works for individuals and teams is [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/dr-steve-peters-the-psychiatrist-charged-with-ridding-anfield-of-the-fear-factor-8554166.htmlManaging The Chimps[/url'"
i've read Steve Peters' book the 'Chimp Paradox' and its actually very good but a lot of it is just common sense.
It's more about preparation before and the aftermath of an event rather than during it, not sure it would be much help in a fast paced RL game.
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| Quote Ayres Rock="Ayres Rock"i would say it's more to do with fitness and having enough in the tank to function for the 40 mins each half. Having played the game, i never once thought "Oh it's 5 mins till half time can look forward to half time". i would say though as fitness levels drained from playing full half's that i was more likely to not stick to the game plan or move in as i would have in the first 5 minutes.'"
For me its about being proactive and not being reactivate during them periods yesterday to me the last five minutes of each half there was no control no micro management of the game on the field they didn't win contact we were going backwards and it needed somebody or a couple of players meet fire with fire and go fwd positively.
I do feel we have a lot of average players but if they are switched on and motivated both as an individual to be the best they can be which let's be honest isnt going to be a world beater but they might end up a good player and if you have more good players in your team you will do much better than a team full of average players.
Personally I think if we had a mind coach and a fully fit squad I do feel that we would finish 8th no problem because as the season goes on it becomes more about motivation and pride both individual and as a group of players rather than fitness that is why every season there isa team who is top of the bottom 10th /11th who makes a dash for glory of finishing in the 8th sometimes they make it sometime they don't
For the record im hoping this season for a top of the bottom finish 10th would be a great achievement considering all the ups and downs this season we shall see.
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| Quote The optimist="The optimist"For me its about being proactive and not being reactivate during them periods yesterday to me the last five minutes of each half there was no control no micro management of the game on the field they didn't win contact we were going backwards and it needed somebody or a couple of players meet fire with fire and go fwd positively.
I do feel we have a lot of average players but if they are switched on and motivated both as an individual to be the best they can be which let's be honest isnt going to be a world beater but they might end up a good player and if you have more good players in your team you will do much better than a team full of average players.
Personally I think if we had a mind coach and a fully fit squad I do feel that we would finish 8th no problem because as the season goes on it becomes more about motivation and pride both individual and as a group of players rather than fitness that is why every season there isa team who is top of the bottom 10th /11th who makes a dash for glory of finishing in the 8th sometimes they make it sometime they don't
For the record im hoping this season for a top of the bottom finish 10th would be a great achievement considering all the ups and downs this season we shall see.'"

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