This is the league table based on the last 13 rnds of SL - with each team playing each other once.



I'm not implying anything , just that it makes for interesting reading .

i'm not daft enough to this will inflence any prediction for 2015 league positions.

Some teams finished strongly and have recruited , and some teams have actually lost some key players.

looking at the other predictions , Huddersfield seem universally placed lower than their actual results , Warrington finished strongly and have Ashton Simms & Darryl Clark to add to next years squad .

Irony-o-meter just went off the scale!

A good guess this thread will be as all pre season forecasts are.



Wigan

Warrington

St Helens

Catalans

Huddersfield

Leeds

Salford

Castleford

Hull FC

Hull KR

Wakefield

Widnes



Gone for my club Wigan as top, recruited well with a new style of play next year plus added pace to the pack, half backs and backs. Look better prepared this year than last to cope with injuries.

Wire 2nd as they again have quality if not quantity in recruitment. An all round good squad.

Saints 3rd. Again have recruited well with Burns and Vea. They have lost senior players though Long's returning will be interesting

Gone for Catalans as 4th, with Carney and Dureau as half backs behind their big pack they could well make the top four with improved away form.

Huddersfield 5th will be good again but think they'll slip back a bit.

Leeds 6th They've not recruited well and lost experienced players.

Salford 7th, will do better this year. Kevin Locke could be one of SL's stand out players.

Cas 8th, will slip back IMO. Losing Clark, Huby and Ellis will affect them badly I feel.

Hull FC 9th, Signing Pryce. Sneyd & Manu shows they are recruiting as badly as ever.

Hull KR 10th, They have good signings but have to overcome their own inconsistent form.

Wakefield 11th, Some big forwards brought in but lack quality over all for top 8.

Widnes 12th. Hardly recruited at all and look very vulnerable over a long season.

cant even get hull fc signings right so hardly in a position to predict ours! fyi manu went back home to australia

Do you mean Kirke & Bailey? That's actually a positive

We haven't signed Manu, he's retired.



I made a comment earlier about him being our highest paid player. I don't know the ins and outs but apparantley there was some EBT scheme that he opted into (it's since been done away with). A portion of his salary went into this, but it was never actually paid by the previous owners, so now Pearson has had to settle to the tune of £200,000. That's what I meant.

Read about him being the highest paid player so thought he'd signed. See what you mean, Pearson having to fork that amount out, poor sod!

As a matter of interest what position do you think you'll finish at?

It's a good sign that so many people are getting offended at other people predictions for their clubs because it shows how competitive it should be.



I fancy Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Leeds and Catalans to make up the top 5 positions in some order but the rest could be anything.



I look at Wakey and Widnes and a lot have them down for 11th and 12th place but with a good start momentum can build and they could quite easily get in that top 6-8 places.

7th or 8th is realistic I think. I like our backs and our back row is, imo, second only to Wigan's. Props are capable when they want to be, but they've got to show it alot more often than they did last year. Hooker is a worry. I hope James Cunningham can prove me wrong but I just don't think he's good enough, and Houghton can't be expected to play 80 every week.



Jury is out with the half backs. I was really pleased when we signed Sneyd but his form dipped noticeably at the end of the season. Pryce also, I've always rated him, but what has he got left in the tank? It wouldn't surprise me if the back end of season sees us with Rankin and Harry Tyson Wilson as the half backs. I don't think that's a bad thing either.



The main problem is Radford. I don't think it's a bad squad at all. There's some really talented players there. Put a top class coach in charge of those players and we are a top 6 team and maybe better imo. He may learn a lot from his first year and come back much better, but I'm not holding my breath.

Ah, hello Phuzzy and welcome back.



Tell me, have you decided against further defending your lunatic assertion that Walmsley last season was less of a prop than Flower and Taylor and merely the equal of Crosby and Clubb ????











Do excuse me. It's just that your ridiculously biased nonsensical stance does make me laugh. Since you appear to have decided against arguing your case further in the face of fact proving you to be little more than a biased Wiganer, I figured I'd just seek confirmation that you cannot see beyond the boundaries of Ashton and Billinge ?

In order:



1. Wigan

2. Saints

3. Warrington

4. Leeds

5. Huddersfield

6. Catalans

7. Castleford

8. Widnes

9. Salford

10. Wakefield

11. Hull FC

12. Hull KR

1. St Helens

2. Leeds

3. Warrington

4. Salford

5. Wigan

6. Hull KR

7. Huddesfield

8. Castleford

9. Wakefield

10. Catalan

11. Widnes

12. Hull



A) Radford first coach to be sacked.

B) St.Helens to do the double.

C) St Helens v's Warrington Grand Final.