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| [uChallenge Cup Semi Final Attendances - Pre & Post SL era comparison[/u
[uSL ERA (18 seasons)[/u
=#FF00002013 = 16,895
2012 = 22,333
2011 = 25,871
2010 = 27,532
2009 = 23,613
2008 = 34,558
2007 = 24,534
2006 = 25,442
2005 = 26,716
2004 = 24,309
2003 = 34,477
2002 = 27,855
2001 = 30,272
2000 = 29,962
1999 = 30,999
1998 = 18,019
1997 = 30,773
1996 = 30,563
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TOTAL = 484,723 from 36 CC Semi Finals = Avg: 13,465
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[uPRE-SL ERA (18 seasons)[/u
1995 = 34,234
1994 = 37,820
1993 = 33,908
1992 = 32,663
1991 = 35,166
1990 = 42,120
1989 = 43,648
1988 = 66,435* Includes CC Semi Final Replay
1987 = 29,169
1986 = 68,781* Includes CC Semi Final Replay
1985 = 61,225* Includes CC Semi Final Replay
1984 = 31,202
1983 = 36,815
1982 = 34,282
1981 = 29,697
1980 = 36,257
1979 = 26,717
1978 = 28,991
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TOTAL = 709,130 from 39 CC Semi Finals = Avg: 18,183
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% decrease in CC Semi Final Total Attendance = -31.65%
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% decrease in CC Semi Final Avg Attendance = -25.95%
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| ^ I mean it's not like those games contain different teams every year. Nice that you took the time to compile the stats though 
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"[uChallenge Cup Semi Final Attendances - Pre & Post SL era comparison[/u
[uSL ERA (18 seasons)[/u
=#FF00002013 = 16,895
2012 = 22,333
2011 = 25,871
2010 = 27,532
2009 = 23,613
2008 = 34,558
2007 = 24,534
2006 = 25,442
2005 = 26,716
2004 = 24,309
2003 = 34,477
2002 = 27,855
2001 = 30,272
2000 = 29,962
1999 = 30,999
1998 = 18,019
1997 = 30,773
1996 = 30,563
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TOTAL = 484,723 from 36 CC Semi Finals = Avg: 13,465
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[uPRE-SL ERA (18 seasons)[/u
1995 = 34,234
1994 = 37,820
1993 = 33,908
1992 = 32,663
1991 = 35,166
1990 = 42,120
1989 = 43,648
1988 = 66,435* Includes CC Semi Final Replay
1987 = 29,169
1986 = 68,781* Includes CC Semi Final Replay
1985 = 61,225* Includes CC Semi Final Replay
1984 = 31,202
1983 = 36,815
1982 = 34,282
1981 = 29,697
1980 = 36,257
1979 = 26,717
1978 = 28,991
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TOTAL = 709,130 from 39 CC Semi Finals = Avg: 18,183
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% decrease in CC Semi Final Total Attendance = -31.65%
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% decrease in CC Semi Final Avg Attendance = -25.95%
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Jeff - so you lost the argument at overall attendances so now you are trying to prove an ageing competition which has been superseded by a newer more vibrant concept i.e. the GF is in decline - everybody knows the CC is a second rate comp what are trying suggest? The point here is people these days would rather go and watch the league competition than a cup - a bit like soccer - maybe it is a society/cultural thing? Overall as has been proved more people are watching RL than in your halcyon days of the 1980's.
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| The average respect for William Eve declines -4.7% every time he posts.
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| Sat here with a cup of coffee, newspaper ready to read and literally laughing out loud at William Eve getting served.
My favourite bit is where he suddenly drags up Semi Final attendances because he's lost the fight on Final attendances.
PS as a could of the Wigans fans said, the attendance & the quality of the game means nothing now to them as their name is once again etched into history.
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| So we have opted for a stat about semi finals as the figures for the finals did not suit unless you picked a one off year.
I think the exposure as a fifth columnist is now complete.
Posting any stat as long as it gives a negAtive spin.
Why not go with the certain fact that there are more people dead than alive. So rl have already missed out on billions of potential fans that they can never get to watch rl again.
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| I've seen a fair few very good trolls during my time lurking around RL message boards, but they usually give themselves away in the end, in much the same way William Eve has.
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"Attendance Latest...
Wigan V Hull CC Final in 2013 = 78,137 (allegedly!)
Wigan V Hull CC Final in 1985 = 99,801
% decrease = -21.71%'"
I know there are some real idiots on these forums but you take the bonbon.
You are not factoring the high unemployment, the cost of the event, the cost of travel etc?
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| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"I know there are some real idiots on these forums but you take the bonbon.
You are not factoring the high unemployment, the cost of the event, the cost of travel etc?'"
yep, and smaller communities which made a local sports team of the world etc, less entertainment choices...
Comparing that era with this is beyond pointless.
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| 2003 71,212
2004 73,734
2005 74,213
2006 65,187
2007 84,241
2008 82,821
2009 76,560
2010 85,217
2011 78,482
2012 79,180
2013 78,137
Seriously, anyone criticising the crowd is an idiot. There really is nothing else to say.
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| I think they used the rug union calculator to count the crowd or does Wembley hold 120,000?
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"I think they used the rug union calculator to count the crowd or does Wembley hold 120,000?'"
You could see 40,000 empty seats? Yeah you're right, this years attendance is shocking compared to last years 79k, which is definitely accurate as its only Wigan games they lie about the attendance. 
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