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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"In many ways I hope Swindon fold now, and the fans all like 500 of them have no club anymore. It's the whole bexit attitude that sums up this country, people cannot accept change and the world is not the same as in 1970.'"
If someone wants to start a club in a new town do it. Don’t steel the resources of an existing club, move them, disregard their history and expect all of the existing fan base to be happy about it.
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"If someone wants to start a club in a new town do it. Don’t steel the resources of an existing club, move them, disregard their history and expect all of the existing fan base to be happy about it.'"
Firstly, that's not what Swinton were doing. They were simply 'rebranding' as part of an attempt to make them relevant to an audience that doesn't necessarily identify with Swinton.
Secondly, the response from the existing fan base sums up so much that is wrong with many attitudes in the game. There's a sense that many would prefer to be "king of the rubble" than be a smaller part of something much bigger. And for what? A sense of nostalgia? People shouldn't cling to history because they are afraid of the future.
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"If someone wants to start a club in a new town do it. Don’t steel the resources of an existing club, move them, disregard their history and expect all of the existing fan base to be happy about it.'"
 there's always some that doesn't effect they own club got some smart d comment
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"If someone wants to start a club in a new town do it. Don’t steel the resources of an existing club, move them, disregard their history and expect all of the existing fan base to be happy about it.'"
Swinton haven’t played in Swinton for a generation and may never play in Swinton ever again.
What’s the point in them being called Swinton?
They play in Sale in Trafford in Greater Manchester. They should be called Sale Lions, Trafford Lions, Manchester Lions, Greater Manchester Lions or any of them with just RLFC at the end with no “Lions”.
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"If someone wants to start a club in a new town do it. Don’t steel the resources of an existing club, move them, disregard their history and expect all of the existing fan base to be happy about it.'"
This is very ironic as Swinton have effectively set up an old club in a new town.
If Castleford started to play in Barnsley should they still be called Castleford?
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"This is very ironic as Swinton have effectively set up an old club in a new town.
If Castleford started to play in Barnsley should they still be called Castleford?'"
Should Bradford change their name to Keighley Bulls?
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| Not while playing at Dewsbury
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"Should Bradford change their name to Keighley Bulls?'"
If in 2047 & they're still playing in Dewsbury in front of a handful of their "Bradford era" fans (with an average age of approximately 52), then yeh, they should probably look to changing their name or something fairly substantial to stop the rot.
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"Should Bradford change their name to Keighley Bulls?'"
If they move to Keighley on a permanent basis then yes.
E. G.
Milwaukee Braves to Atlanta Braves
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"If they move to Keighley on a permanent basis then yes.
E. G.
Milwaukee Braves to Atlanta Braves'"
The American model doesn't always work that well in the States never mind here Rams Raiders and Chargers spring to mind where the franchised are disenfranchised due to commercial pressure and stadium leases and to some extent they are used to it we aren't.
British sports fans generally have an emotional attachment to their teams do you think that the AFC Wimbledon MK Dons transformation was fair?
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"The American model doesn't always work that well in the States never mind here Rams Raiders and Chargers spring to mind where the franchised are disenfranchised due to commercial pressure and stadium leases and to some extent they are used to it we aren't.
British sports fans generally have an emotional attachment to their teams do you think that the AFC Wimbledon MK Dons transformation was fair?'"
Its irrelevant.
The point is that Swinton already don't play in Swinton. So they have already done the geographical move. The name change would simply make the naming of the team more accurate.
The question was asked should other teams change their name if they move locations, my example was there to show that yes they should. It was not addressing whether the club should move out of Swinton.
If the Swinton board were proposing to move the team outside of Swinton then we could equate it to afc Wimbledon. But the move has already happened. If you move house you don't get to keep your street name and house number.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Its irrelevant.
The point is that Swinton already don't play in Swinton. So they have already done the geographical move. The name change would simply make the naming of the team more accurate.
The question was asked should other teams change their name if they move locations, my example was there to show that yes they should. It was not addressing whether the club should move out of Swinton.
If the Swinton board were proposing to move the team outside of Swinton then we could equate it to afc Wimbledon. But the move has already happened. If you move house you don't get to keep your street name and house number.'"
Well said
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