Bemused me too. Missed the signal from Hicks at the time.

Only thing I can think of is offside in some way.

Gutted . Thought this was a Bill Hicks thread

Yes, totally agree. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour.



regards and all the best,

Sean O'Loughlin

Ha, he is murder for it yes, but then it's endemic in the game. Apart from at Leeds of course, they never do it...

We don't.



Leeds have a revolutionary new approach to the game in 2016, we've decided not to actually complete any tackles. If you see a tackle made it is purely by accident.

The other endemic is the one at the PTB were the player moves off the mark going 1 or 2 metre forward gets tangled up with the defender marker and gets a penalty, happens quite a lot this season, must have missed this new ruling and can't find it written anywhere.

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Think there might be only a couple of refs that know about it.

This seems to be the new thing, i've lost count of the amount of times Huddersfield have been penalised for this already, there were 3 or 4 yesterday

The attacker, drops the ball at the same time he walks/pushed into the markers, and appeals by waving his arms or throwing them up,either the defenders aren't smart enough to get out of the way, or the attackers are too smart for the officials, surely the TJ can see what's happening? whatever, the ref's give a penalty every time to the attacking team, when to me, the defenders have every right to stand their ground, the attacking team should be penalised for it IMO as it's him moving off the mark into the defenders.

There is too much appealing and protesting going on now, every play the ball and every tackle, every time a ball goes dead or a try appears to have been scored, there are players throwing their arms up, waving them about, running over to and shouting at the officials, it's getting more like football every season.



I did ask Mr. Hicks about this,well more about the seemingly lack of respect towards officials, at a giants pre season forum, and he said there wasn't a problem with it, and that players' respect towards the officials hasn't deteriorated

and I get properly annoyed that hardly anbody plays the ball with the foot, in the NRL they do it (mostly) properly and you can't say that their play the ball is slow because of it - think I am just becoming a grumpy old man but the play the ball is one of the original rule changes that the Northern Union brought in to emphasise the differences between the games and you virtually ALWAYS used to get penalised for doing playing the ball correctly

I'm sure i've heard it said that in the Northern Hemisphere game you don't actually have to play the ball with your foot, just make an attempt?

I'm sure some budding James Child(S) will confirm.

Playing the ball is the whole crux of why we are different, and is it so hard to play by the rules? we had no problem for almost a hundred years till super duper league came along.

Same in the NRL, isn't it? Players aren't penalised for not touching the ball with their foot there, as long as there's a reasonable attempt.



Always makes me laugh there, though, the way they are insistent on a correct p-t-b after a stoppage, after an injury say, shouting "make sure you use your foot!", like it matters on that occasion, but on others, not so much.



The walking off the mark into defenders happens just as much in the NRL, I reckon. Indeed, the players are often praised for it, "making metres after contact". The two, however are not the same thing.

I'm really not bothered at all about the foot at the play the ball, as long as the player lifts his leg over the ball and doesn't just roll it between his legs then that's fine with me.



As for having no problems with the play the ball for 100 years, is that a joke? It used to be a complete and utter mess.