So you do work for the RFL after all

no, i just care about the game a huge amount more than these clubs who have all mostly wasted their opportunity and are now trying to stop anyone else having a go

Go on then



Explain how these incompetant heap clubs from the northern backwaters are stopping ' somebody else ' from having a go

i didnt say they were stopping them, i said they were trying



a prime example would the epic leigh franchise dummy spit

When all else fails



Change the subject



Again

So I take it you're including Sheffield in there even though it's as big as Toulouse, or Gateshead who represent the large Tyneside area. Both of which are working their way up from being shafted and will be adversely affected by having to travel to France (it's not just money, the players have to take time off work). Yet if they'd kept Toulouse in France and created a European comp for the top teams of both leagues then both leagues would have gained something and been seen as equal, rather than moving French Elite down from being a feeder league to SL to being a feeder league to NL1 for the sake of one club. Toulouse in NL1 is just a short term fix, they should stay French Elite til they're ready for SL

in what way have i changed the subject? you asked me how they were stopping others having a go, i replied they werent, but they were trying and the epic Leigh dummy spit was a prime example of the kind of thing they were doing



fool

will get from the inclusion of Toulouse in NL 1 from next season



Because there are none you have tried to change the subject

have there been a lot of sponsors looking to pay for a european comp between two semi-pro leagues, under a much much bigger european competition we already have (super league)?



Could Toulouse put together that squad, invest in the youth as they have, go pro as they have and prepare for SL like they are by adding a couple a games on to the end of the year?



the french elite and the NLs are and will be a feeder league to SL, thats how it is, the best players from each of these two leagues will both move to the SL clubs, the reason Toulouse is in the NLs is to prepare for SL, its to get more money from sponsors, from TV, which they can then invest in to preparing themselves

you might want to look back and see who ignored the relevant part of my post,



i havent changed the subject at all, i have explained to you there may not be any 'tangible' benefit to the existing NL clubs, because the existing NL clubs arent the most important thing in rugby league, everything isnt done with them in mind, and everything isnt done for their benefit, it isnt all about a few clubs in the NLs the game is bigger than them!



and to answer the other part of your post (which somehow isnt changing the subject from the tangible benefits, but is still completely irrelevant to it, hypocrisy thy name is starbug) the Leigh complaints were pathetic, they went to press bad mouthing another club and questioning their right to be where they are



[i''We are thoroughly disgusted with the Celtic decision,'' Allan Rowley, their chief executive, said. ''The decision-makers should hang their heads in shame.



"We are going to ask the RFL how Celtic ticked more boxes. We owe that to the public of Leigh.''[/i



comments like these seem like a fairly blatant example of Leigh trying to use the media to pressure the RFL into re-examining their position

and therefore we are fighting for the best deal we can get or should we all meakly get shafted by all and sundry for the good of the game



You seem to be of the opinion that we should get nothing from ' central ' funds unless we are happy to oblige the RFL , well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it



We are the least important part of the sport in your opinion and would be the least missed if we were to leave the control of the RFL



That might one day happen and in my opinion it would not put us in any worse a position than we will be in the next few years



In the mean time if I think the RFL are making a mistake I will say so

without complaint



And then you wonder why most NL fans when presented with the costs are basically unhappy with it



You really are losing the plot