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| Quote Odem="Odem"Only in terms of kicking. Lockers passing game is far superior. He is much stronger with ball in hand, he is great at backing up, he is one of the best defenders England has.
Added to the fact that Sinfield has generally been a flop at international level, Lockers hasn't played against Aus for a few years because of injury.'"
Sinfield is a far superior passer to O'loughlin, he is much more creative, and better offloader. O'loughlin is much bigger, stronger, better runner of the ball and a better defender.
There is nothing O'loughlin offers which cant be made up elsewhere in the pack, there is plenty Sinfield offers which cant be covered elsewhere in the pack, not least his utility.
O'loughlin would be my 3rd choice at Loose after Sinfield and Burgess.
Tomkins
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Burrow
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Hock
Mossop
Honourable mentions for Pryce, Mcguire, Houghton, Atkins, Charnley, Yeaman, O'loughlin, Ablett, Henderson, who will likely be in and around.
Big pack, lots of impact, Burrow and Roby buzzing around the ruck, Sinfield providing utility and direction, Widdop linking and running, Tomkins chiming in to the line and acting as the extra halfback and lots of variability to change things up if needs be.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Sinfield is a far superior passer to O'loughlin, he is much more creative, and better offloader. O'loughlin is much bigger, stronger, better runner of the ball and a better defender.
There is nothing O'loughlin offers which cant be made up elsewhere in the pack, there is plenty Sinfield offers which cant be covered elsewhere in the pack, not least his utility.
O'loughlin would be my 3rd choice at Loose after Sinfield and Burgess.
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Graham
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Lynch
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Westwood
Burgess
Burrow
Crabtree
Hock
Mossop
Honourable mentions for Pryce, Mcguire, Houghton, Atkins, Charnley, Yeaman, O'loughlin, Ablett, Henderson, who will likely be in and around.
Big pack, lots of impact, Burrow and Roby buzzing around the ruck, Sinfield providing utility and direction, Widdop linking and running, Tomkins chiming in to the line and acting as the extra halfback and lots of variability to change things up if needs be.'"
Brough?
I don't like the idea of Sinfield in the halves again...
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| I don't know what Danny Houghton needs to do to get in the England squad, he is one of the most consistant performers in super league. Also whilst I agree that Charnley has had the edge over Briscoe this season, I would have Briscoe in ahead of Hall. Hall is a great winger don't get me wrong but Briscoe offers something different in that he can score a try out of nothing (as shown on saturday). If were going to beat the Aussies we need to start taking more risks, and stop relying on the usual formula.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Sinfield is a far superior passer to O'loughlin, he is much more creative, and better offloader. O'loughlin is much bigger, stronger, better runner of the ball and a better defender.
There is nothing O'loughlin offers which cant be made up elsewhere in the pack, there is plenty Sinfield offers which cant be covered elsewhere in the pack, not least his utility.
O'loughlin would be my 3rd choice at Loose after Sinfield and Burgess. '"
O'Loughlin is one of the best passers in Super League. Sinfield a very good passer too but 'far superior' is well wide of the mark.
O'Loughlin offers more out of the two in the forwards, Sinfield offers more in the halves.
There's nothing that Sinfield offers that couldn't be made up elsewhere in the pack, other than his kicking, but with Brough, Tomkins and Roby also in the squad there is no reason why Sinfield's kicking would be the trump card.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"Brough?
I don't like the idea of Sinfield in the halves again...'"
Brough is only 2 years younger than Sinfield, he isnt the next young thing. He is a fairly decent player, who played for some pretty average teams and was bombed out of the only club he tasted a modicum of success with.
Either we go with Sinfield or throw it to one of the youngsters.
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"O'Loughlin is one of the best passers in Super League. Sinfield a very good passer too but 'far superior' is well wide of the mark.
O'Loughlin offers more out of the two in the forwards, Sinfield offers more in the halves.
There's nothing that Sinfield offers that couldn't be made up elsewhere in the pack, other than his kicking, but with Brough, Tomkins and Roby also in the squad there is no reason why Sinfield's kicking would be the trump card.'" None of Brough or Tomkins play in the pack. Roby isnt an international kicker by any stretch. Roby is an outstanding player, a real talent, a level above either Sinfield or O'loughlin but that isnt one of the strings to his bow. Sinfield speed and range of passing is far superior to O'loughlins. O'loughlin can run some nice set moves and has a facet to his game most forwards of his ilk dont have in that respect, but Sinfield is superior in that aspect.
I agree Sinfield offers more in the halves, If i were picking the side he would be in the halves, Burgess imo is the best of the three and the 13 jersey is his right now but if you wanted to move Burgess further up then O'loughlin would be the next in line
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| Sinfield shouldn't be in the team he has proven he can't play at international level so why pick him? He's only good for his kicking and maybe leadership abilities but there are plenty of leaders in the team so that doesn't matter
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Sinfield is a far superior passer to O'loughlin, he is much more creative, and better offloader. O'loughlin is much bigger, stronger, better runner of the ball and a better defender.
There is nothing O'loughlin offers which cant be made up elsewhere in the pack, there is plenty Sinfield offers which cant be covered elsewhere in the pack, not least his utility.
O'loughlin would be my 3rd choice at Loose after Sinfield and Burgess.
Tomkins
Briscoe
Reed
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Sinfield
Graham
Roby
Lynch
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess
Burrow
Crabtree
Hock
Mossop
Honourable mentions for Pryce, Mcguire, Houghton, Atkins, Charnley, Yeaman, O'loughlin, Ablett, Henderson, who will likely be in and around.
Big pack, lots of impact, Burrow and Roby buzzing around the ruck, Sinfield providing utility and direction, Widdop linking and running, Tomkins chiming in to the line and acting as the extra halfback and lots of variability to change things up if needs be.'"
Not at all. I have lost count of the times Lockers has thrown superb passes to our wingers to put them in the corner from nothing. Lockers is always a key part of our attacking line and is much better at that than Sinfield.
Either way, I'm confident Lockers will be picked. He is the best 13 in the comp right now and Burgess needs to be in his best position. So many coaches have picked lockers out as the best 13 in the comp, he is just so much better than Sinfield I don't know why I am bothering to argue about it.
Sinfield has proved time and time again he is useless at international level. End of.
Great at Leeds though, against the aussies? Not a chance! They probably laugh when we pick sinfield in our team.
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| Sinfield might be tried at 9. He has played there before and done well.
The Ausies and Kiwis know how Roby works. From the quick ptb.
They both slow it down it and nulify any of his speed around the ptb area.
Hence we end up going nowhere.
Sinfield might, just, be the kind of play maker that could undo them so their 3 and 4 men in the tackle can be offset by a long pass from dummy half.
Roby to come on from the bench after 25 mins.
Just a thought as Roby has hardly made a break in recent Intls.
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"Sinfield might be tried at 9. He has played there before and done well.
The Ausies and Kiwis know how Roby works. From the quick ptb.
They both slow it down it and nulify any of his speed around the ptb area.
Hence we end up going nowhere.
Sinfield might, just, be the kind of play maker that could undo them so their 3 and 4 men in the tackle can be offset by a long pass from dummy half.
Roby to come on from the bench after 25 mins.
Just a thought as Roby has hardly made a break in recent Intls.'"
I can agree with this as Sinfield did play well at 9 at times in 2009. But I don't think you can play him at 9 ahead of Burrow, McIlorum, Houghton etc.
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| Seriously, Sinfield has been fit for the last (probably) 5 or 6 end of season Internationals and he has yet to cement his place in one position for England. How many more goes is he gonna have at being average in another position?
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| I think we can safely say the following:
1: All Wigan fan's would pick SO'L
2:All Leeds fans will go for Sinfield
3:All neutrals appreciate both are good players and will base their choice on how the rest of their squads will line up
Replacement hooker is an interesting pick, Roby seems nailed on for 9 of most and then you have Henderson, Burrow, Robinson, Houghton. Plenty of choice. Again, a choice that may depend on how the rest of your personal team lines up.
One thing for sure, England seem to have more options than for a while.
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