It is because it is not done properly.



If we feel we have players that can compete with the Aussies then why can't we reproduce something that is close to Origin.

It isn't going to happen overnight but can't understand why fans don't buy into this as it will definitely give our players more of a stepping stone between club and international level.



If not then we need more international games.

the clubs won't take it seriously so the fans won't pay to watch it for me its that simple.the only way this would work is if it was tied in to being picked for the priviledge of waring the England jersey in the 4 nations or the WC.two many players cried off the last time it was tried or there clubs pulled them out.make your own mind up.

But why do we need to reproduce Origin? It's not a British concept, no other sports do it here. The Australians are strange and have strange ideas about representative sport, that's fine if it works there but we don't need to copy everything they do. More internationals would be great but we need more competitive nations to play them, constantly playing against the Aussies and Kiwis would get boring fast.

I agree with J.C make it as a selection series with performances in the games being used to pick the England/GB squad. This will then up the intensity levels of the series straight away.



If we can produce a spectacle any where near the SOO it could be marketed well and help spread the game.

i might be wrong on this HH but its not new lancs yorks cumbria once played regular.

they didnt give it long enough to bed in, origin down under started poorly



midweek games were never going to take off either

I went to a few of these games and really enjoyed them - thought they had decent enough crowds as well to be fair. Mind you, bein a Wakey fan, at the time I'd have thought 6000 was a big gate lol

Never a truer word spoken.

Whilst I agree that it is a bad idea at superleague level, I think this could be something good for the Championship players, I would hazard a guess that 80% of players in CH and CH1 are from lancashire or Yorks, and it would give a good chance for lower level players to compete at a stronger level, players in championship one for instance could put themselves in the window to higher level clubs, whilst the grassroots fans would have chance to see the best of thier leagues going head to head.



I would make the thing a one off game each season though.

We had a county championship for the best part of 100 years, starting in 1895. How long does it need to bed in? The attendance figures tend to back up the assertion that the fans have never been all that interested.



As for 80% of the championship players being from Lancashire or Yorkshire - seems unlikely when you have Gateshead, South Wales, London Skolars, Toulouse and the Cumbrian clubs out of your 21 team total. Some of the clubs who are in "Lancashire" or Yorkshire would have less than 80% of the first choice team who were even born in England.

Don't see the point really. The RFL should concentrate on improving attendances for internationals, play off's, quins, the magic weekend and the challenge cup before biting off something else too big for them to chew.

if a player over here is in either state squad, they arent allowed to play for their club on the weekend before the state game, so all star players are missing for three games of the season , more if injured or rested the weekend after the state game, but teams are happy for players to play representative footy and miss club games as they see it as an honour, english teams need to adapt to the same mentality for a origin series to take off, otherwise its just a waste of time