I'm not disagreeing..... I would have him start at 7 for england... he is a much better option than brough.. and Myler, as good as he has been this year, isnt ready yet.



I was pointing out the OP's ridiculous statements in regards 'superleagues best defence' and he has not 'seen myler do it in any game this year'... which is frankly a bit silly... as he has had a great season for us./.. maybe he just doesn't watch much rugby league.

Yeah, 4 times grand final winning captain, Lance Todd and Harry Sunderland trophy winner, super leagues leading point scorer, Leeds rugby league all time highest goal kicker,etc etc - what's he ever done to deserve an international shirt ?

Irrespective of who plays, we have to have a very strong kicking game.



(Sorry, that makes me sound like Phil Clarke, stating the obvious).

I agree, I've been saying Brough all year but he's lost form. I'd go Lomax now, he needs to get used to the setup as he's probably the favourite to be our 7 in 2013.



On the other hand kicking could be an issue if we played Lomax instead of Brough, you'd have to be relying on part-time kickers again in O'Loughlin, Tomkins and Widdop.



It's a tough call, we all remember what happened when Sinfield kept kicking to Slater on the full at Elland Road in '09.

Sadly though, we won't.

Always a problem of ours.



STOP KICKING TO F***ING SLATER SO HE CAN RUN ONTO THE BALL!!!!!!!



Get the little turd in the ingoal and give him a load of grief like the Kiwis do and he'll fall to bits like he does in finals against them.

You make it sound so easy

The problem is not who is doing the kicking, its where on the field they are kicking from. If your 5th tackle is on your 20m line, the chances are the kick return will be pretty good. So we need to get at least to the halfway line in a set to have an effective kicking game.

Would deffo have him in the squad, but we need a kicking game and for now he does not have an international class kicking game. Brough may be out of form, but he does have the best kicking game in the league (plus he is the most rounded English 7 in the league). How about having Lomax coming off the bench as interchange hooker. Plus he will have the versatility to cover half, full back and centre.

Spot on. Brough was the form half in the first part of the year but Lomax has passed him now



Lomax has got great distribution and when he attacks the line he is excellent. Plus he is defensively good as well



Funny isn’t it – a year ago we were bemoaning the loss of Eastmond but for me Lomax is a far better all round player

I understand what you say about the form thing, but Brough brings something that England have been desperately been missing for years. Brough may be slightly out of form now but when he is playing well he is as good an allround player as Lomax + a kicking game. I think having DB and Widdop at half gives us balance. Lomax is certainly a talent and should be in the squad mind and included somewhere.

6 Widdop

7 Lomax

13 Sinfield