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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"How did you work that out?
Hodgson caught the ball cleanly and had it in his possession. He was moving towards and would have landed over the tryline. Without Fox's interference, what would have stopped him grounding it? Nothing. No-one. If that's not someone in the act of scoring I don't know what is.'"
You could argue that Fox could have gave Hodgson space and either secured the ball from being grounded or could have been pushed into touch as soon as his feet touched the ground.
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| Quote Matty_HullFC="Matty_HullFC"Psssttt, I think Mr Morgan said that you can takcle the player in the air.'"
Do you really think that? 
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| Quote Fully="Fully"You could argue that Fox could have gave Hodgson space and either secured the ball from being grounded or could have been pushed into touch as soon as his feet touched the ground.'"
You could argue Hohaia might have tripped. That's not the point. Remove Fox from the equation and Hodgson scores. Simple as that.
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| Morgan,Brown & Matterson all said they believe you can tackle the attacking player in the air. Thats 3 SL coaches that believe that interpretation of the rule. As Matterson said what are you meant to do let the Attacking player catch the ball and just put the ball down. If you can tackle the ATTACKING player in the air then it was never a penalty and Hull KR should have won.
I'll admit i aint got a clue whether you can or can't. Anybody actually know this 100%
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"You could argue Hohaia might have tripped. That's not the point. Remove Fox from the equation and Hodgson scores. Simple as that.'"
Look closely at Hodgson putting the ball down. He's in touch but that wouldn't have happened hadn't Fox tackled him BUT didn't he fail to ground the ball correctly. That could have happened with or without fox.
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Morgan,Brown & Matterson all said they believe you can tackle the attacking player in the air.'"
=#8000FFMatterson is a clueless buffoon, Brown was coaching in the NRL where you COULD tackle the attacking player in the air and Morgan well he was trying to find an excuse. In the NRL you could/can tackle the attacker in the air, in SL you've never been able to.
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Morgan,Brown & Matterson all said they believe you can tackle the attacking player in the air. Thats 3 SL coaches that believe that interpretation of the rule. As Matterson said what are you meant to do let the Attacking player catch the ball and just put the ball down. If you can tackle the ATTACKING player in the air then it was never a penalty and Hull KR should have won.
I'll admit i aint got a clue whether you can or can't. Anybody actually know this 100%'"
You definitely CAN'T tackle a player in the air. This has been the rule for donkey's years:
Quote Easty="The RFL Laws of the Game"[size=120Mid-air tackle 1. (b) It is illegal to tackle an opposing player attempting to field a kick whilst the player is in mid-air. The catcher must have returned to the ground before being tackled. (See Section 15.).[/size'"
Section 15 refers to Player Misconduct.
Quote Easty="Easty"Look closely at Hodgson putting the ball down. He's in touch but that wouldn't have happened hadn't Fox tackled him BUT didn't he fail to ground the ball correctly. That could have happened with or without fox.'"
He grounds the ball incorrectly precisely BECAUSE Fox is shoving him into touch; he rushes it in an attempt to ground it before finding touch. The overwhelming odds dictate that without interference, Hodgson would have grounded the ball cleanly. He was travelling over the try line with the ball in his possession. There is NO reason whatsoever to presume otherwise.
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| Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"=#8000FFMatterson is a clueless buffoon, Brown was coaching in the NRL where you COULD tackle the attacking player in the air and Morgan well he was trying to find an excuse. In the NRL you could/can tackle the attacker in the air, in SL you've never been able to.'"
Should we not all be playing by the same rules especially so we know where we all stand for internationals. Either you can or you can't. Can you imagine football having seperate rules for domestic competitions in different countries, FIFA would go ape.
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Should we not all be playing by the same rules especially so we know where we all stand for internationals. Either you can or you can't. Can you imagine football having seperate rules for domestic competitions in different countries, FIFA would go ape.'"
=#8000FFAussies have a load of different rules most are pretty inane but the 10 subs (same as international) is one of the better ones along with the people who pack a scrum down to stop the clock have to stay formed, and football does have seperate rules, for example the MLS has extra time for league games.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"
He grounds the ball incorrectly precisely BECAUSE Fox is shoving him into touch; he rushes it in an attempt to ground it before finding touch. The overwhelming odds dictate that without interference, Hodgson would have grounded the ball cleanly. He was travelling over the try line with the ball in his possession. There is NO reason whatsoever to presume otherwise.'"
He lands on the ground steadies himself and fails to ground the ball correctly. Who is to say he'd ground it otherwise. Your simply presuming.
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| Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"=#8000FFAussies have a load of different rules most are pretty inane but the 10 subs (same as international) is one of the better ones along with the people who pack a scrum down to stop the clock have to stay formed, and football does have seperate rules, for example the MLS has extra time for league games.'"
National leagues have different points scoring rules and the NRL golden point thats not the same as different technical rules. In football everygame played between that 90 mins are played using the same rules.
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| Quote Easty="Easty"He lands on the ground steadies himself and fails to ground the ball correctly. Who is to say he'd ground it otherwise. Your simply presuming.'"
Exactly. Penalty tries are given on the presumption the attacker would have scored without illegal interference.
Seeing as that's the case here, it should have been a penalty try.
Let me spell it out. If you remove Fox from the situation, the hugely massively overwhelming probability, pretty much a guarantee, is that Hodgson - with the ball safely in his hands and travelling over the line in a safe direction - will score. Fox tackles him ILLEGALLY and Hodgson ONLY fails to land cleanly or ground the ball due to Fox tackling him IN THE AIR and pushing him into touch. Without Fox, none of that would have happened.
I'd have been interested to see the reaction if Hodgson had taken out Fox in the exact same circumstances.
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