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| What players are the future of England RL?
FB:Tomkins should be our #1 for years to come.
Wing: Goulding? Not good enough for me but what young wingers are coming through? My team Hull have Will Sharp and Reece Lyne coming through, Cudjoe could be in with a shout in a year. Briscoe needs to work on quite a few things but has a lot of potential.
Centre: Atkins? Absolutely not England class IMO. Gleeson is obviously better but not one for the future. Hull have Yeamo and potentially Briscoe but Yeamo isn't anywhere near International class IMO. Shenton looks a pretty decent player and probably the best English centre.
Halves: S'OL? Not a long term 6, McGuire? Not sure if he's international class. Robinson? Good player but not a long term 7, Eastmond looks like he might be but we need a leader in the halves aswell and I'm just not sure Eastmond is a leader who'll take the team around the park.
Hooker: Roby is class, needs to work on a few too many erorrs, Lunt is a decent player but not sure if he's good enough? Hull have Houghton coming through who has been tremendous at times this year.
Prop: No worries at prop for me.
Second row: Again no major worries, bit disappointed with Joel Tomkins, thought he'd have a much better tour.
Loose: S'OL has been a decent player when played at 13, also got Sinfield pushing and it'll be interesting to see how Westerman progresses under the guidance of Fitzgibbon at Hull.
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| I will jump on the wigan bandwagon of trumpeting their stars who are still in nappies.
Move Tomkins to 6 when Nathan Ashe hits the Saints first team. He will be Englands number 1 for years to come, unless he declares for NZ. He might not be the best defensively but has bags of pace and a step thats better than Benji Marshalls. Hes also a pretty boy to boot so the media will love him.
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| sack mcnamara and bring in ellery hanley
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| Tompkins got found out. He's not good enough yet to play at this level.
Coach, I say Gary Schofield. We're going nuts.
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| Who is this Tompkins you speak of?
If you mean Tomkins, how can you say hes not good enough?
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| Quote roughyedspud="roughyedspud"sack mcnamara and bring in ellery hanley'"
For me McNamara can't be blamed, atleast he has brought a team spirit and a never say die attitude to the team unlike Tony Smith whose team crumbled time and time again. It takes something different to be a good national coach than it does to be a good club coach. McNamara deserves a chance, individual errors cost us today but he can't be faulted for that.
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| Quote Conorgiantsfan="Conorgiantsfan"Tompkins got found out. He's not good enough yet to play at this level.
Coach, I say Gary Schofield. We're going nuts.'"
Never heard of Tompkins. What are you going nuts about?
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| Quote Old_Faithful_IAKW="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Wing: Goulding? Not good enough for me but what young wingers are coming through? My team Hull have Will Sharp and Reece Lyne coming through, Cudjoe could be in with a shout in a year. Briscoe needs to work on quite a few things but has a lot of potential.'"
Take off the Hull blinkers. Briscoe has done nothing the last 2 games and his work rate is minimal, he may as well not have been playing. He was awful today and gets no where near kicks either when attacking or defending. He has potential but has a long, long way to go. He has been far worse than Goulding in the last 2 games and based on the last 2 games if you are saying Goulding isnt good enough than Briscoe certainly isnt.
As for Will Sharp and Reece Lyne you surely cant be serious? There are far better wingers than either of these two.
On Sam Tomkins he was very poor today and still has a long way to go. The same can also be said for Joel.
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| with respect,it doesn't matter who is selected - we must cut out the basic errors,improve discipline etc the aussies can do it so why can't we ?
Quote Conorgiantsfan="Conorgiantsfan"ompkins got found out. He's not good enough yet to play at this level.
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you're having a laugh aren't you ???
Quote Conorgiantsfan="Old_Faithful_IAKW"For me McNamara can't be blamed, atleast he has brought a team spirit and a never say die attitude to the team unlike Tony Smith whose team crumbled time and time again. It takes something different to be a good national coach than it does to be a good club coach. McNamara deserves a chance, individual errors cost us today but he can't be faulted for that.'"
well said
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| No point in dropping a heap of players...again. What will that achieve? A big fat nothing. Maybe a change of coach but that might not change much either. What England need is a restructuring of the entire game basically. SL needs to sacrifice the number of games in exchange for more intense games. Sl does have some firece, intense and hard hitting games, but too many of them throughout the season are slow, laboured and soft.
The idea of an origin type series is being thrown about but who could England play that would bring that intensity? QLD and NSW hate each other, that's what makes it intense. England are hardly going to hate an international all stars side.
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| Quote Famous="Famous"Take off the Hull blinkers. Briscoe has done nothing the last 2 games and his work rate is minimal, he may as well not have been playing. He was awful today and gets no where near kicks either when attacking or defending. He has potential but has a long, long way to go. He has been far worse than Goulding in the last 2 games and based on the last 2 games if you are saying Goulding isnt good enough than Briscoe certainly isnt.'"
Look at everyones ratings for Goulding... take off your Wigan blinkers.
Quote Famous="Famous"As for Will Sharp and Reece Lyne you surely cant be serious? There are far better wingers than either of these two.'"
Unfortunately I don't know every English player coming through every teams academy, I was just throwing my teams up and coming English players into the mix.
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| Quote Old_Faithful_IAKW="Old_Faithful_IAKW"For me McNamara can't be blamed, atleast he has brought a team spirit and a never say die attitude to the team unlike Tony Smith whose team crumbled time and time again. It takes something different to be a good national coach than it does to be a good club coach. McNamara deserves a chance, individual errors cost us today but he can't be faulted for that.'"
Agree with this. No-one expected us to beat NZ or Australia. We know the backs aren't good enough, we know the Aussie officials won't give us a fair go. The attitude and workrate of the team were excellent in both games - and they looked like a cohesive unit in both games. McNamara has to get some credit for that.
Kel Egan was excellent on the radio, BTW. Can't remember hearing such in-depth analysis of the action on British media before.
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