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| Maybe Franny`s offer was less than Mason wanted or maybe Platt`s rumoured proposed move to Salford falling thru because of Salford`s financial position scuppered any deal. But like Mat says Sidlow is preferable for the Bulls. Also think Masons onfield attitude could give the wrong signals to the younger players.
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| I'd have Mason over Sidlow every time but what's probably happened is Sidlow accepted what we have to spend and Mason didn't.
I'm encouraged it looks like we tried to sign both. Add one more prop and it's beginning to look like a squad - a thin squad but nevertheless a squad.
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| 15 tries in 87 appearances (AS) against 8 tries in 203 appearances (KM)
Slightly less average mtrs gain last year but set against 2 errors, 12 penalties and 29 offloads (AS) as opposed to 13 errors,25 penalties and only 2 offloads (KM) for virtually same number of appearances
On his day mason can be great but we need a solid grafter and can't afford to be on back foot from errors and penalties so IMO sidlows the better fit for where we are as a team. If we could have got mason too then great but if its one or the other then the stats speak for themselves.
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| I suspect the collapse of the deal involving Platt heading to Salford has left us unable to bring in a 2nd Prop. I think Mason would have definitely improved our pack but we have a tight budget to stick to unfortunately.
I fear it could be a tough year for us once a few injuries to the pack inevitably happen.. but we have SL rugby and for that we should be very grateful.
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| Quote BOYD2="BOYD2"Makes you wonder why Mason turned you down and chose Cas instead.
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Probably cos we didn't want to pay the silly money he was asking for?
Did the same thing when Fielden was asking for a wage that was laughable for someone who's not played 80 minutes of rugby in the last 2 years.
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| I doubt many teams have greatly strengthened next season with the exception of Hull FC.
We will finish above Widnes, London, Cas, Wakefield and Salford for starters.
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| I think atm Hull FC are looking like a serious contender now;
Wigan have lost some decent players and not replaced them
Hudds have strengthened but will most likely crumble come the end of the season
Leeds dont seem to have improved their pack a great deal but they are always around come the playoffs
Saints havent done much as of yet but usually come good
Wire dont need to get any more players they have keep the same squad and still look the strongest
KR are similar to us getting the odd player here and there
The season may be a long old slog but maybe thats what we need a hard fought campaign that shows we can battle the best. (keep injuries to a minimum of course)
Table prediction (i know its early)
1. Warrington
2. Hull FC
3. Catalan
4. Wigan
5. Leeds
6. Saints
7. Bradford
8. Huddersfield
9. Wakefield
10. Hull Kr
11. Widnes
12. Castleford
13. London
14. Salford
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| Dream on mystic dream on. 
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| Quote BOYD2="BOYD2"Dream on mystic dream on.
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It's hardly an unlikely prediction now is it?
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| Our squad isn't a whole lot worse than it was last year and without the 6 point deduction we would have finished above all the aforementioned teams and Huddersfield to boot. Finishing in a similar position is by no means unattainable. If we finally learn to close out games we'll win more than we did last season too.
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| Quote cieranblonde="cieranblonde"Our squad isn't a whole lot worse than it was last year and without the 6 point deduction we would have finished above all the aforementioned teams and Huddersfield to boot. Finishing in a similar position is by no means unattainable. If we finally learn to close out games we'll win more than we did last season too.'"
Agreed. Our back line looks better with Foster coming in and Blythe who can play centre. Purtell is back from a long time out. Gale and Sammut are more settled. Foster offers a kicking alternative. Whitehead is not starting with a five match ban. Evans and Sidlow offer more than Kopczak and Burgess IMO. Bateman another year older and Donaldson at full fitness is like a whole new signing. We won't concede as many penalties too now that Elima is away.
Add to the fact that the uncertainty is over then I would argue we are a bit stronger. Scruton returning also seems to have been overlooked too.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Agreed. Our back line looks better with Foster coming in and Blythe who can play centre. Purtell is back from a long time out. Gale and Sammut are more settled. Foster offers a kicking alternative. Whitehead is not starting with a five match ban. Evans and Sidlow offer more than Kopczak and Burgess IMO. Bateman another year older and Donaldson at full fitness is like a whole new signing. We won't concede as many penalties too now that Elima is away.
Add to the fact that the uncertainty is over then I would argue we are a bit stronger. Scruton returning also seems to have been overlooked too.'"
I wasn't too worried about the forthcoming season, but your unbounded optimism is a cause for concern, I put it down to your burgeoning friendships with TT &FA!
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| We're considerably weaker in the forwards. We lost 3 out of our best 4 props plus our biggest and best second rower.
We've recruited a kid who hasn't played Super League plus a lad they're happy to release at Salford. There are positives - Blythe and Purtell is potentially very strong on the right side but the pack is a shadow of last year.
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| Quote mat="mat"15 tries in 87 appearances (AS) against 8 tries in 203 appearances (KM)
Slightly less average mtrs gain last year but set against 2 errors, 12 penalties and 29 offloads (AS) as opposed to 13 errors,25 penalties and only 2 offloads (KM) for virtually same number of appearances
On his day mason can be great but we need a solid grafter and can't afford to be on back foot from errors and penalties so IMO sidlows the better fit for where we are as a team. If we could have got mason too then great but if its one or the other then the stats speak for themselves.'" you missed from your analysis the superior tackle and missed tackle rates of Sidlow compared to Mason, another reason for preferring him given the pack does look weak but FC commenting in the tna article about Sidlows offloads may be an indicator of his priorities, offence the best form of defence. His tackle bust rate is much much higher than Mason too.
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