this is a riduculously stupid thread

riiiiiiight.

thanks Adeybull, my exact analysis at the start of the season when the fantasy footballers were bemoaning the lack of Aussie superstars signings. And you dont need to read the accounts to work it out: If we had the money we would not have any space under the cap, it would be spent.



I find it absolutely amazing that any Bulls fan could think that we had a hope against Warrington, my view is that we get the points we need to get into the playoffs by beating mid to bottom teams by just one point if necessary nine times to get us the 18 more points we need to get there. and on that note one good thing that happened for the Bulls yesterday is that KR lost to Wakefield, ok by 2 points, but that is exactly what we have to do.



So forget the game yesterday, it was irrelevant to achieving the target for the season. we need 6 points from the next three SL games ie Hull Kr Salford and Quins. That is a big step on the way to the playoffs, and will give the lads a bit of confidence too. If they can do it.



And at the start of the season I said I would be happy to get into the playoffs PROVIDED the younger players had not been over-played, which is also the message from Hood in that article. So despite saying I would not want Leon back in previous threads, right now a fit Leon would be a big help as would Mason, both to take pressure off the kids and put a bit of edge into our play, particularly defence, and help restart the season. and Kearney could stay at FB all the time when he returns, and Briggs would have a mentor that has done it all. So a bit more positional stability would be a good thing, utility players are all very well, but you can have too many of them, we need a full time SO and a full time FB

If we all know where we're deficient and I wouldn't disagree with a lot that has been said, why isn't our coach fixing it? Why are we so unfit? What set plays are we working on in training? Why can't we string more than one pass together and let the ball do some work for a change? Why do the players look so uninterested? Why are everybody elses 'kids' ready and ours aren't? Why are we getting so many injuries, is it our conditioning or pre-match drills? Why didn't we give the players we've signed a chance to play in a settled position instead of chopping and changing all the time? Why have we signed a stand-off we don't play? Why did we sign a highly rated Scrum Half we don't play, cos the Aussie version ain't got it I'm afraid? if this a three year turn around, why has the coach only got a two year deal?



Some answers are needed, and fast. If the club is rotten to the core as eluded to on here where is the problem and who needs to go so we can

Thanks for the reply Adey, so seems it is a combination of factors that have contributed to the Bulls current status. You have the fan base there, I suppose it is a matter of maintaining and growing this again but onfield matters would have to improve to do that.



My main observation about your set up and this has been stated many times is the ground and its drain on finances. If valuable funds are being spent on the ground this will be at the expense of spending on additional or better players up to the cap limit. I know plans aren't going well for redevelopment but why not share with Bradford City? I read earlier they are having financial difficulties so maybe a ground share would benefit both parties. When I attended VP during your season there it didn't seem a bad ground, apart from the away end and being further away from the motorway. I know Bulls fans may not like the idea of a groundshare but it could be the way forward. Not all SL clubs own their own ground now, even the SL Champs.

This is over-simplistic. I understand knee-jerk "sack everybody" reactions after a debacle like Warrington, or Salford, but what you have to factor in to the equation is the same coach and the same squad putting in monster efforts like against Cas, Leeds and others. Why aren't we faultless every week? I don't know, but if you blame Potter for Warrington/Salford then do you equally give Potter the credit for the good performances we have put in?





Don't buy that.





A good question.





As our good performances show, though, we actually can. The question would be, why do we have weeks where it looks as if we've had our hands chopped off? (Although my perennial moans about the ridiculous number of unforced errors we have been making these past few seasons must sadly continue).





I would say "some of" - but THAT is to me the big question. And has been for some time. Not so far this year, but more than once last season and before we have actually had first team players admit in the press that there were colleagues who had not been putting it all in. No names were named, but most of them surely remain at the club.

It is quite shocking to see where the Bulls are languishing at present, It's almost like seeing a club in freefall, It is often easy to critisise and castigate when things arn't going your way



IMO you Bulls fans need to keep faith and more importantly keep up your support of your club going in it's time of need, you're clearly needed more now than you ever were during your recent glory years



I have one serious concern regarding the Bulls and i mentioned this at it's inception with my Bulls supporting friends, and that is in regards to the Pledge scheme



How could your club ever find a way back if all of it's pledge members refrain from renewing next time around, Or even if half it's members refrain from renewing for that matter?



That is a deeply worrying thought

Its not really.



The pricing, as this year, would reflect the number of (renewal) pledges. Fewer pledges = higher prices. You'd end up with similar income overall.



The worry is with the consequential loss of the loads of additional ancillary and sponsorship etc income the higher crowds have brought in.



The REAL worry though IMO is that if we don't turn it round soon we will not get a franchise come 2015.

That would be a dissaster Adey as i think that the RFL's agenda on franchises will possibly deem it almost impossible for clubs outside of the elite division at that time to get back in.

Agreed. If we lose the franchise its a one way ticket to oblivion.



Can't be allowed to happen.

Thanks for saving me time, as my post was going to be just about the same as that

So no mention of the decision to award Steve MacNamara a 4 1/2 year contract or any number of dumbfounding decisions on player recruitment and retention that the board, minus Chris Caisley, sanctioned in the last 5 years? The failure to sack Steve Macnamara 2 years after he was clearly not up to the job? The near constant spinning of information through unofficial channels so that figures like £3 million become accepted fact? The story about the club going bust but spending £100,000 on Solomona + Brett Ferres despite the club's policy of focussing youth? The loss of the world's best young forward because he couldn't get out of Odsal quick enough? The signings of Feather, Orford, Sykes, Glenn ? The utter capitulation in the face of Orford's agent? I could go on and on and on.



Why no mention of any of these decisions? How on earth is it Brian Noble's responsibility to balance the books of Bradford Bulls Ltd? It's an absurd charge to hold him responsible after all that has been totally ballsed up since he left? Was he the accountant? He was a good, hard working player who captained GB and never let us down and he is the club's most successful ever coach with the budget he was given which I would very much doubt was any different to Leeds, Wigan, Saints at the time. Your undermining of his achievements at the club is out of order and plain wrong.