Danny Walker, Owen Farnworth, Chapelhow twins and Brad Walker are decent youngsters. You can have Greg Burke and Chris Bridge. Danny Craven another option.

Really like the look of Danny Walker.

Everyone suggesting Greg Burke and Aaron Heremaia really don't get how dual registration works - we'll get fringe players and youngsters, not guys in the Widnes starting 17!

Yeah I have only seen a bit of Danny Walker and I like him too. Heremai and White are injured most of this season and still another month away. You can have Olbison back I really don't rate him.

Olbison was poo poo at Bradford..

Really rubbish for Widnes too. Disappointed Betts signed some rubber ducks over the yrs.

A similar line was trotted out previously when we linked up with a club. I can't recall whether it was our dual reg with Hunslet or our close ties with Leeds. But I'd love to hear this vision that they seem happy to share with other clubs but not their own flippin supporters. I am rapidly getting to the point where I say.. I'm out. I have plenty of other things to occupy my time and money.

Same here. Dual reg in 2018 will see to that.

I'd seen them a couple of times and noticed Heremaia didn't play. Didn't realise he was injured, although that makes sense I suppose as he's a very good player.

I do realise how dual reg works. Some clubs use it to play anyone that's not getting a game (Leeds, Wakefield), not just youngsters, although it was supposedly put in place for the younger players.

2019 is the cut off for me. Its about ticking boxes off each year to get to a stage where we can challenege for SL again. Aim is to survive this year and lets say we do, we'll be receiving £150k-£200k funding again. To fund a full time squad, an academy (which is more important to me than DR as much as i hate it) the owner Will be looking at putting at least a million into the club out of is own pocket.



Next year we will start on zero and can make a push for the top 4 but with limited funds, we will have to find other ways of putting together a competitive squad.

Sheffield dual reg with Leigh but haven't had any Leigh players for last 6 or 7 games



Sheff get told which players are available and its up to them who they choose if any. They are not told they must take so and so

Bull Mania, that is probably the best longer term view I have read for a while. Yesterday there seemed to be a bit of a glut of doom and gloom and I understand why.

It is important that we stay focused on what we need to achieve this year and that is so simple - survive by any means we can.

The problem is we made such a good start and then plateaued and this now feels like we are going backwards which is spooking the fans. We dearly need some positive news again to give everyone a lift.



Widnes may be at the bottom of SL but they may still have 2-3 decent players that can help us out and I will take that. I still haven't given up hope of Lilley and some of the others coming back.

I think it's fair to say, that we made such a good start on the back of a number of decent loan players and some inspired form from the 'young guns', who have let no-one down.



We [iare[/i back to the start though, in two ways; firstly we've lost the bulk of loanees who did us so well and secondly, we're seriously at, or even beyond, the point where some of the youngsters have done their bit and, for their own well being, need a break from first team action. The dual reg with Widnes might be a godsesnd for us, if it only works out 'averagely' well it should still be worthwhile. Any of the original loan players coming back would be a bonus, but 'blessed is he who doth not expect', fort he shall not be disappointed.

I'm already disappointed Bulliac, got any words of wisdom for me?

Lol, the 17th chapter of the book of Jobe.



Not being a god botherer, I'm far from sure that the book actually exists tbh, however, many years ago (though it feels more like lifetimes ago), when I first started at work, as an apprentoid in the textile engineering industry, a bloke, nearly as old as I am now, used to repeat the mantra of the 17th chapter, ad nauseum. It does have the ring of truth though!