Yes for me! Give him a chance with his own settled team

Haven't seen anything to say that we have had any plans or tactics this year and yes I know he has only had his visa for a month(lol). Not sure that next year will be any less of a struggle with a large raft of new signings, unknown grounds and teams, and all this with another drop in the standard of refereeing. Maybe we need someone with some kind of knowledge of the English game.

I can't imagine Geoff is on big bucks, to be honest. Firstly because we're simply just not a 'big bucks' organisation and secondly because I don't think Toovey is that big a draw after his time in charge at Manly. He won a championship, fair enough but overall he was hardly a great big rip roaring success. I doubt we were in any auction to get him here. Favour to an old buddy, maybe?

I hope he stays and sees the job through.

I was in Perth last month and went to the Manly / Warriors game. A group of diehard Manly fans had travelled from Sydney . When they recognised my Bulls shirt they started chatting. First question was " How's Toovs doing"? . Clear they think of him as a legend because of his time as a player .

More importantly all of them rated him as a coach and thought he was badly treated.

He did have strong links with Lowe but he had no need to come. He is a qualified Charterd Accountant, he had a regular spot on their RL shows , and he was a Board member of their equivalent to the Automobile Assn.

All those Manly fans agreed he would have come because his first love is League and as one of them said " he's a stubborn and determined little b*****d".

I'd be interested to hear why those who want Toovey to stay think that he is even remotely qualified for the job that he'd be required to do in League One?



That's a genuine question. I genuinely don't understand why people would think he's the right person for the job.

For the same reasons I don't fancy Toovey in the job, I wouldn't want Wayne Bennet either!



Horses for courses IMO

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Not wanting to cause an argument, but did not us fans think the same about Jimmy " he's a stubborn and determined little b*****d"and unfortunately that did not work out. I hope if he does stay he can adjust to coaching lesser players than he has been used to.

TBH think until club come out and make a statement as to what their plans are for next year and what level of funding is available then its difficult to say whether Tooveys right man for job or not. Silence from club at moment is deafening.

I'm not clear on the rationale that "an English coach" would automatically be better. Especially as we don't know who that would be.



Toovey has experience of playing and coaching at the highest level. Normally that would make him favourite for the job. I think some are judging his ability solely on performances this year and not looking atvthe bigger picture enough. We could have had Sir Peter Fox in charge this year and we'd still have gone down. Toovey's win ratio in the NRL is better than most.



Unless we can be certain of getting anyone better we should try and keep him. The last thing we need is more uncertainty and change. We need stability.

There's a lot going on. Transitioning out of these circumstances and all that.

Of course we did. They had similar qualities as players.

The difference to me is that those Manly supporters I met rated Toovey as a coach. It wasn't his record, it wasn't the fans wanting him to go , it was boardroom politics.

if he stays, the time to judge whether he can coach players of far less ability than he had at Manly, is

after he's had a say in who the club recruits,

And. A full off season to prepare those players

Agree with all the above, but...

Has Toovey shown us anything yet to convince us that he's the right man for the job?

I dont think so.

I accept all the "unsettled squad", "no pre-season training", "could anyone have done better in the circumstances" - I accept all that - but given all those challenges has he actually showed us that he will do a better job next season - no.

However, I do think he deserves a full pre-season to show us what he can do.

I say, if he wants to (and doesnt cost too much) let him stay; but if his win rate drops below 50% he should go - simple.

He might be the messiah - but I'm not convinced yet

For the first time ever I disagree with Bullseye on this one. Yes circumstances have been exceptionally difficult but Toovey has shown us nothing to suggest he can turn things around. In any case I believe it's academic as from the article in the YP it sounds like he cant wait to go back home at the end of the season.