I'm not trolling one bit. I just can't understand how it's possible to get so animated about a fixture we've dominated for years. I mean, I can understand WIRE fans getting all het up (Phuck ***I'D*** be het up!) But not us.



Hating on a team we consistently batter is just the height of decadency and a sure sign that we've had it good for far too long.

Re. Dux-

"Not true. Pre-super league we'd already won more than double the amount of championship titles Warrington had."



You only won 7 and we won 3. Hardly a cakewalk .



Other trophies won during pre superleague were fairly even-



Challenge Cup- 5-5

Regal Trophy- 4-1 to Wire

Premiership- 4-1 to Saints

Lancs Cup- 11-9 to Saints.



Overall, I'd have to agree with my initial statement in that 'their hadn't been much difference

between the two sides.

Looks like a post made by someone who knows their own clubs dominance of not only a rivalry but of a competition is coming to an end. It's so true that every dog has it's day, and Saints days are counting down very quickly indeed.

I dont know about Warrington but in the rest of the world 7 is more than double 3.

Nobody really cares.

Genuine question.

Where do Saints fans see their team in 5 years and more to the point see Wire in the same period.

History is great, just ask Germany

Re- No 1 Saint- 'Blah ..7-3 is more than double in my world.'





you were insinuating that St Helens were much more dominant because they had won

more than twice as many titles than us. I have just revealled the full picture by

comparing ALL the honours and not picking out one set which suit my club.

The one set which happens to be the most prestigious and sought after prize in the game.

Given that the average age of the Wire first team is 28 I don't see your success lasting that long without serious investment from Moranovich. If he puts that in fine, but then we'd be able to say you bought the trophies rather than earned them.



Winning one Challenge Cup means nothing. Sheffield did it, Hull did it, hell even Wigan managed it. It doesn't mean you are a top side and it doesn't mean you are going to win anything last season.



The suggestions that Saints fans are jealous of Warrington is ridiculous. We have seen Saints win around 20 major trophies compared to your 1. That kind of treasure hunting has to be for a limited period and we all knew the circle would have to turn eventually.

I'm not insinuating or assuming or implying anything here just how do you see both teams in the future. I don't want a cock measuring contest. Plus our lads coming through are quite exciting.

I know how id like to see it!!

. whens relegation back in?

Why, you'd win that one. I think Wire are set for a good spell and seem a superbly run club, emerging into one of the really strong SL clubs along with Leeds, Wigan and Hull.



Within 18 months Saints could look drastically different than what we do now. We could well have a new coach, possibly 6 or 7 new players as we have around 8 of the first 17 coming off contract and, fingers crossed, will be in a shiny new stadium attracting more revenue and less cost than KR is at the moment.



I don't think there is any doubt that the stadium process has impacted upon the resources and work that has gone into the playing side of things. There really isn't any thought being put into the squad development at the moment, hopefully that will change once the bricks are in place.



New coach, new stadium, new players, new kit, new cheerleaders. It'll be all fresh and new.