I disagree. Leeds do have pace, yes, but I'd say it wasn't that which defeated us. We didn't have halfbacks and it showed, especially in some of the decisions Wilkin made; we made some stupid errors at crucial times and just when it mattered most, when we hung on like our lives depended upon it against Wire and the Pies, we slipped up on our marker defence and our ball and all tackling. That's what defeated us, not Leeds' pace.

I disagree, whilst our lack of halfbacks did contribute to our defeat, Wilkin made two howlers in those kicks at the end, bar that he was average rather than woeful. Both of those came on their try line, Melis bad pass at the end happened on their line. Leeds pace took them 100m in 6 tackles, we weren't capable of doing that to them in the same situation.



Leeds pace has told in all the GF we've played, with them being able to start their sets far further up the pitch than we were due to a far faster kick return.

Wellens

Foster

Shenton

Wheeler

Lomax

Pryce

Estmond



I'd say that is a pretty speedy backline imo.

Perry

Roby

Graham

Soliola

Puletua

Wilkin



That is a world class pack imo

What about the young lad dan brotherton? we signed

Heard people saying he's a quick lad theres our bit of pace as long as hes not just another kevin penny

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T-Rex must be the biggest winger in either code, he's HUGE!

Your logic defies the facts that Warrington have not beaten us since 2001 and other than the 3 GF defeats and the recent semi loss we have beaten Leeds comfortably on a number of occaisions in the league, cup and playoffs.



Poor decision making by certain individuals cost us the GF last year and semi this year, not an overall lack of pace in the backs.

"Poor decision making by certain individuals cost us the GF last year"



which is one of the reasons we should not keep meli, he does this far to often to stay at saints

I thought it was more of a jibb at Ian Smith (the VR IIRC)

Bentham was the VR at the last year's GF.

Top draw pack. could be the best in sl on paper. same with halfbacks. I think you'll miss gidley

but you have shown that your younger players can do a good job.

Saints have been regarded has having the slowest backline for years, speed is an asset but not as important as "speed of mind". Wellens as an example regarded as the slowest back in superleague, yet can get to the cover tackle or attacking line better than anybody.

Think we are still top of the Superleague try count 150+, not bad for a slow backline.