Right, so the change in reffing has aloud some teams to fully exploit the 'flopathon' and long lay on. It allows teams to throw or four into a tackle and then have enough time to organise their defence line. Hudds do this brilliantly, hence their great defencive record this season.



So...... what do people think is the best tactic to overcome this? Should Potter copy the strategy or is their somethig that can work against this and leave Hudds etc. with gaps in their line?



Any suggestions you want to make to Potter? No smart please. I'm being serious.



It's no use complaining about this. We need to come up with something to combat it.



What do you all think?

So if we come up with an idea to combat the laying on, you will take the idea directly to Potter ? And he is willing to listen to the fans ideas? And asked us for our ideas ?

Bradford did it well the other week.



Huddersfield squeeze the space well by getting players 20 or 30 metres in from the touhline.



An early kick for a wide running player causes them problems (Gardners try on Friday).



If you can make them stay out further then they can't get so many in the tackle.



However to do it your kicking has to be good. I'll bet Briers will try to exploit them this way in the final.

Correct, it seems the kickign game and pure speed to burn is the way aroudn this type of defence, even speedy 2nd rowers.

Hiring wrestling coaches? Isn't that what happened in the NRL the last few years?

Yes, well. We don't exactly have a reputation for that, which is probably why we haven't yet used it. We have had all season to at least try and sort out our kicking deficiencies, which are many, but we don't seem to have made any progress at all. Except Longy's kick to Gardner on Friday was fab and I wish they'd all be able to kick like that!

If you look here [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?t=426822[/url you'll find we are discussing the exact same thing.



Since Tim Smith got injured our kicking game has been really poor.

Wrestlign is part N parcel of the rugby training these days though isnt it, swear it started back in 1996 were wrestle coaches would come in and show the club how to do it. Ballet lessons were tried to, but not sure we still do those anymore.

Need to get a better coach for it then! Its hardly surprising Hudds are the best at it when their coach has come over from a league where it was the norm.

I agree, get Brock Lesner over from UFC to teach some moves on our kids.. Get O'Loughlin in a choke, drop him & watch him tap out!! BOOM.. WHAMO.. love a bit of UFC. Maybe we could sign Kimbo Slice at Prop





Were too nice in the tackle, usually 1 or 2 players at the most & I've seen us help other players up!! Were too soft.. Lets wrestle aaaagggghhhh

Yeh that's right, he said he hasn't got bloomin' clue what to do and would I pop on here and see if Syd's got any pearls.





Seriously though.... I think the kick to corner is right. However, what about the offload? After drawing in three or four defenders wouldn't a well timed offload find gaps in the line?

I think that you're blinkered. All teams do it. Three or four in the tackle when they can, and then peel off one at a time.



The way to stop it. Instruct the referree to allow say a maximum of five seconds from the tackle being completed to the ruck being cleared.