I'd agree 100% with that and add that picking and choosing the bits to believe and not believe is equally dangerous so best avoid it all together in my view.

Thats a great article. Its long but worth reading

Indeed



However is it not again somebody desperately trying to interpret ancient text to suit a personal agenda ?



Why not forget the infernal damn contradictory "holy books" ( they should be called holey books - as in full of holes ) and as others have stated live and let live, without ANY religious dogma fairy stories to impede and confuse us ?



Somebody else stated if I choose not to believe in a god I shouldn't try to stop others. I agree.... Problem is I do not " choose " to NOT believe... I WANT to. We all do.

It would be nice to savour the promise of an after life. i'm no different to countless other men with their disparate religions and faith throughout human history. However, there is no logic to it and I am convinced this life is all we have. Embrace it.

Your points are very interesting, and your faith must be applauded for it to have such an effect on you. However I am not religious whatsoever though I respect peoples choices, I have raised 3 children and my oldest son is gay. I knew he was gay from a very early age, his mannerisms, and various other aspects of his behavior made it fairly obvious. Your God never made my son gay, nor did any cultural or societal factors, however there is some research that suggests biological aspect may play a part who knows, one thing I can assure you of is my son [uwas[/u born gay. The sad part is I watched him as a teenage encounter homophobic behavior which broke my heart and no doubts his, do you not consider if he had a choice he may have changed who he was due to small minded people who believe my son is a sinner! Your god knows nothing!

Elliott Whitehead’s not getting the baton





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He's not exactly renowned for his intelligence is he. Apparently he "fort" Reardon had let the side down.



if the RFL are serious about supporting the LGBT Charter they should give him a 5 match ban (again!)

Don't be silly, a quiet word in his ear and a slap on the wrist would be sufficient. The lad is young and daft and didn't mean to cause offence.

Imagine my shock when after reading this whole thread, it's not actually about one man's "tackle" taking an unfounded and irrational dislike to another man's "tackle".



Some threads on here these days, you just can't make sense of their titles.





Oh and for the record, I'm neither religious or gay, but believe that either group have not only a right to their opinions, but also to practice them as long as no mental or physical harm comes to anyone else as a result.

I thought it was going to be about how certain posters seem disgusted to the point of ire that Ian Kirke's line defence isn't heterosexual enough.

I know, it's a BUMMER when you expect one thing only to find another isn't it....

Noble and indeed ideal.......unfortunately too many followers of religion use its cloak of "respectability" and divinity to continue to foster and perpetuate prejudices and bigotry: vindicating their hatred and/or unacceptance of differences. Religion is no more than a euphemism for superstition (belief without foundation)....why don't we give believers of superstitions and cults the same reverence and special exemptions to secular law ??

How far should we go in allowing religious freedom within secular law ?? Every individual will have his/her own idea at where the line should be drawn. Is the majority view the correct view ?

Some would consider it their religious right to decapitate those apostates that don't believe the same as they do.

I personally don't think anybody should be allowed to inhumanely slit the throats of live animals to satisfy their religious freedoms of how to eat meat.

One exemption to any law will only open the door for others to test and prod its solidity. We've now got hindus wanting to burn bodies on open pyres. Without having the hindu faith would I be discriminated against if I wanted to do the same to my late father ? What about those of viking descent wanting to send their deceased out on burning boats ? Should they be discriminated against ? I'm rambling now.....



Basically within a secular non-theocratic country there should be no room for any religious influence on law. Viva la France. State sanctioned marriage between [iconsenting[/i adults should not discriminate in any way because of gender. It is the business of nobody else who those [iconsenting[/i adults might be ...whatever their superstition/religion might be [iperceived[/i to decree otherwise.

I knew when I posted that, that at least one Bulls fan would come leaping to his defence.



Being young and daft is no excuse. Drunk drivers and joyriders are often young and certainly daft. That doesn't excuse them when they cause injury. Would you excuse a young daft junkie who burgled your home to get money for a quick fix because they were young and daft.



Apart from being young and daft he is in the public spotlight an should be setting an example. If his comments had been racist rather than homophobic there would be a rightful clamour for a meaningful punishment.



IMO the RFL were right to come down heavy on Castleford for the homophobic chanting of their fans. They should be equally rigorous when individuals who should be acting as role models publicly air their prejudice or bigotry.