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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Spot on. I just hope he plays better against the aussies than he did against us on Saturday.'"
Apart from setting up the greatest try ever seen at Wembley?
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"Just a cynical attempt to attempt to stop a ban from the rfl'"
Indeed.
Does it relate to the gesture or also his petulent actions towards match officials simply doing their job ?
Would he have been fined / censured for the same incident, had it not been broadcast on national TV ?
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| Quote Owdpopularsider="Owdpopularsider"Apart from setting up the greatest try ever seen at Wembley?'"
 Carried away much?
Greatest seen at the new Wembley maybe. Maybe.
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| Quote Owdpopularsider="Owdpopularsider"Apart from setting up the greatest try ever seen at Wembley?'"
I'd rate Offiah's as better myself but yes, he did set up a great try. Beyond that he was a lot less effective than I'd feared he might be. So I stand by my comment that I hope he plays a lot better against the aussies because that level of contribution is not going to be enough against a much stronger side.
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| Quote Owdpopularsider="Owdpopularsider"Apart from setting up the greatest try ever seen at Wembley?'"

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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"It might be a bit left-field for some, but I'm of the opinion all players should be treated the same. Lets hope this new concept catches on.'"
Exactly where did I say that players should be treated differently?
You're being obtuse, clearly. Either that or you are thick.
I said the context warranted tougher action, not the player. It wouldn't have mattered who had flipped the vs on Saturday, I would be expressing the same view.
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| Sam Tomkins fine has been donated to the R.S.P.C.A. for all the cats and dogs that were kicked around Warrington and St. Helens by their bitter fans on Saturday afternoon.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Why would he be banned, seeing this type of thing has happened numerous times without a ban being given?
I know this may be incredibly difficult for some but they need to look beyond the fact it was Sam Tomkins and move on.'"
I got my e-mail off to the RFL compliance manager this morning. I pointed out to him that the "Respect" campaign must work both ways, if fans are being banned and their clubs being fined for obscene gestures/chanting then the same must apply to errant players. A ban for Tomkins and a fine for Wigan for failure to control their players.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Looking at my avatar it would appear one of us has a sense of humour.'"
There's nothing really that funny in highlighting a player's inability to grasp the scoring system in RL. Who cares if he's Carol Vorderman as long as he helps England stuff the Aussies.
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I recall Keith Senior attracting a RFL ban based on his 'high profile' within the game. I disagreed with that decision (on that basis) then and I'd disagree with a ban for Tomkins now.
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| Quote leeds owl="leeds owl"I got my e-mail off to the RFL compliance manager this morning. I pointed out to him that the "Respect" campaign must work both ways, if fans are being banned and their clubs being fined for obscene gestures/chanting then the same must apply to errant players. A ban for Tomkins and a fine for Wigan for failure to control their players.'"
Well done you.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Exactly where did I say that players should be treated differently?
You're being obtuse, clearly. Either that or you are thick.
I said the context warranted tougher action, not the player. It wouldn't have mattered who had flipped the vs on Saturday, I would be expressing the same view.'"
Well seeing you said this:
Quote SaintsFanYes, when the matter is one of conduct. That's exactly right. The reputation of the sport is important at all times but it becomes more important in the high profile games and when high profile players are involved. The bigger the profile, the greater the impact. The bigger the player's profile, the greater the player's responsibility. '" in the context of whether a ban should be given, you are obviously saying certain players should be treated differently for disciplinary reasons. Seeing you can't even remember what you wrote, I wouldn't start accusing other people of being thick.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"There's nothing really that funny in highlighting a player's inability to grasp the scoring system in RL. Who cares if he's Carol Vorderman as long as he helps England stuff the Aussies.
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I recall Keith Senior attracting a RFL ban based on his 'high profile' within the game. I disagreed with that decision (on that basis) then and I'd disagree with a ban for Tomkins now.'"
I think he was just telling people we were going to add the two as well (which we didn't).
Re Senior was it the WCC game run-in with Silverwood?
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