Was that the only penalty we got in the 2nd half? Amazing really considering how Child seemed to be cracking down on messing about at the ruck, Wire were probably worse in this area in the 2nd half than they were in the first.

In hindsight, the one thing I didn't refer to in my original post which I should have done was the fatigue level... Given this, taking the two does indeed give the team a potentially valuable breather, so you definitely have a point on that score... However, if you are a fatigued player, what would you rather be doing - attacking 10 yards from the opposition's line (bearing in mind the like of Hall, Watkins, Moon and Hardaker who all still looked fairly fresh could have taken a few drives in - as Hall indeed did end up doing quite a few times in the remaining play) or defending 35 yards out against a team throwing it about all over the place desperate for a score?



At the end of the day, the fact that by taking the two Leeds showed they backed themselves to handle the short kick off, hence showing positivity as opposed to my negativity, and they turned out to be right - but it could so very easily have gone against us. It just makes it all the tougher to watch when supporting a team who put us through the wringer enough as it is

From a Wire point of view I was relieved with the decision to go for 2.



A tap, no mistakes, and at worst give us the ball back a minute later 95m or so from your line, or at best score a try to finish us off. Taking the 2 and moving from 8 to 10 points ahead made little difference, maybe used up less time and gave us the opportunity to get the ball back in the Leeds half.



Ultimately it made no difference in the end, but for a minute or so it gave us hope of snatching a totally undeserved win.

His decision making in terms of penalties and one pointers has never really cost us and as was shown in France on Monday his ability to use his goal kicking to ensure victories in games is second to none.

I thought the taking the 2 in the last few minutes was the right call as we looked knackered.

I would disagree with the decision early in the first half to take the 2. I know it took us 2 scores ahead but I thought we were well ontop at that point and another set on their would have led to a try for us.



But then I'm not Leeds captain for several very good reasons

For me it all depends on the score not the clock. If we are 4 in front then go for 2 as 6 is a converted try for them to draw level. If the 2 points does not give us another converted try advantage then try and score a try or pin them down their end.

Good call by the o p in my opinion the Wire poster said it all it gave them a chance that they should not have been given , fatigue is always going to kick in more without the ball than with it . Saying that and defending Sinny he makes more good calls than bad

Indeed.2003 is an experience that the skipper would not like to taste again.

Often it is a mixed blessing to be awarded a penalty near the opponent's line ,you have to gamble ,take an easy two points or go for six points and possibly get nothing.Many times a defending team holds a player down,preventing an inevitable try from being scored ,in that sort of situation they have nothing to lose.I would like to see a rule change ,where, after a successful penalty goal the non offending team gets to restart on the opponent's forty metre line with a tap.So you can take the two points without losing too much field position and still retain possession.

Don't particulary like that idea personally. It's like being penalised twice. Keep the rule how it is, there is nothing wrong with it.

with sinfields kicking game this season [ up till last night being almost perfect the constant kicking of penalties means that without having your line really threatened you're suddenly points down and struggling to get anything from the leeds defence

leeds are trying to score from every visit to their opponents half and thats no bad thing in my eyes, we've not looked brilliant close to the line and by not scoring a try with give a psychological boost to our opponents

we proved against wigan last year and catalan last week how effective the 2 can be

I'm also reminded of the draw between Wigan and Warrington earlier this year where several easily kick-able penalties were refused, particularly by Warrington. Have turned down the two points on offer on multiple occassions both teams finished the game with a desperate scramble for a 1 pointer.