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| we would, but handley simply hasn't kicked on for me. I would be looking for an outside replacement.
also it just highlights how poor our right hand side is, and continues to be.
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| I'd keep Briscoe in, and try and work out a way to give him more protection - applying some kick pressure would be a start! The only real alternative we have is to move Watkins out to the wing, but I'm not sure that's the way to go.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"I'd keep Briscoe in, and try and work out a way to give him more protection - applying some kick pressure would be a start! The only real alternative we have is to move Watkins out to the wing, but I'm not sure that's the way to go.'"
I don't think it's just the kicks though, all round he has seemed not with it. Honestly think it'd do more harm than good to keep him in hoping he'll come good. He's scored 2 tries vs Wakey and 2 vs Salford recently and they haven't seemed to boost his confidence.
At this stage of the season we can't have a player out there and telling others we effectively need to hold his hand.....I know that sounds harsh but I honestly wish the guy the best and would love nothing more than for Friday's game to be decided by a 79th minute Tom Brisxoe match winning try or match saving tackle. I just don't think keeping him playing is the route to go. He has made the joint most appearances this year and will have only played less minutes to Hall because of coming off at the Magic Weekend, continuing to play him isn't working.
If I was coach I'd tell him to take a few weeks off and go recharge his batteries and get away from RL for a couple of weeks. We're almost fully fit barring Galloway so we get through these next 3 games and then after the week off for Wembley we bring him back in for the final 4 league games and see where he's at.
He's seems just so at rock bottom confidence and body language wise I honestly think keeping him out there when you know he's going to be targeted is bordering on cruel, it might sound like jumping to conclusions but when you think about what we've heard from the likes of Stevie Ward and depression in the game I am seriously worrying about him, another horror show against Wigan and where does he go from there?
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"I don't think it's just the kicks though, all round he has seemed not with it. Honestly think it'd do more harm than good to keep him in hoping he'll come good. He's scored 2 tries vs Wakey and 2 vs Salford recently and they haven't seemed to boost his confidence.
At this stage of the season we can't have a player out there and telling others we effectively need to hold his hand.....I know that sounds harsh but I honestly wish the guy the best and would love nothing more than for Friday's game to be decided by a 79th minute Tom Brisxoe match winning try or match saving tackle. I just don't think keeping him playing is the route to go. He has made the joint most appearances this year and will have only played less minutes to Hall because of coming off at the Magic Weekend, continuing to play him isn't working.
If I was coach I'd tell him to take a few weeks off and go recharge his batteries and get away from RL for a couple of weeks. We're almost fully fit barring Galloway so we get through these next 3 games and then after the week off for Wembley we bring him back in for the final 4 league games and see where he's at.
He's seems just so at rock bottom confidence and body language wise I honestly think keeping him out there when you know he's going to be targeted is bordering on cruel, it might sound like jumping to conclusions but when you think about what we've heard from the likes of Stevie Ward and depression in the game I am seriously worrying about him, another horror show against Wigan and where does he go from there?'"
I think you make some good points but one thing that contradicts one your point is: Leeds are second despite carrying a player all season. What is going to change if the table is a true reflection of where the teams are?
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| I hope Mac picks Briscoe. Dropping him will destroy him. If it was me, I'd want to be on the field, not stewing in the stands. He was publicly backed by his coach straight after the game, so he needs to pull up his Y-fronts and box on.
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"He knows how to play wing, you're making it sound like I'm suggesting putting Garbutt on the wing. Centres and wings know how to do each other's position.'"
What you are suggesting is taking the best player in his position in the competition and playing him out of position - madness in my view.
It looks to me that your more worried about Wigan's attacking threat than what Leeds' attack can do to Wigan.
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| Quote TheSnowmonkey="TheSnowmonkey"I agree with your team posted elsewhere ,except that I would not include Ferres...send him on a 3 week training session with Yorkshire regiment until loses weight and gets fit. Agree on not having walker at FB..for me his defence last time we played Wigan was poor and Golding bailed him out. However if Golding is needed on wing I disagree with your comment he was shown up in this position. He actually played more times on wing than FB in 2016..He scored on his first outing against Salford in April and later in April against Saints, even though we lost that match.'"
I agree with you regarding Ferris, despite his experience he currently looks slow and ineffectual and lacks discipline. Briscoe has totally lost the plot and needs taking out of the firing line. Wing these days is a more specialised and important position that centre and for that reason I would move Watkins there where in fact he could have more opportunity to run with the ball.
So Sutcliffe and Keinhorst in the centres with Ward given a role to stiffen up the right side from second row.
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| We were unable to put any kick pressure on Sneyd - Hull's only kicker - so I can't see that we'll be able or willing to do that against Wigan who have at least two last tackle kick options in Williams & Leuluai.
Putting pressure on either or both those will leave gaps elsewhere that Wigan will surely exploit.
We need to get more bodies around the defender. Easier said than done.
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| All Williams does is a little grubber with the outside of his foot 9/10 times. Can read him like a book.
Obviously won't do it if Briscoe is playing like.
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| Delaney returns to the 19 and Briscoe keeps his place.
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| Going to be a long night Friday watching Briscoe how not to defend a high ball. I expect Burgess to get at least a hat tick.
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