Leeds have turned down offers from unnamed clubs for Keinhorst already this year. He’s out of contract at the end of the season and he is uncertain his future is with Leeds. League express reports.

well he wont be on top $ at Leeds so I bet he would double his money with a move unless Gary makes him a good offer

Most people were happy with Sutcliffe at centre at the end of last season. One game against the team coming up from the lower division and Keinhorst is suddenly preferred?



I agree with the comments praising Keinhorst's various attributes for playing centre, but I think his deficiencies are being ignored. IMO he isn't big or fast enough to play there for Leeds longer term. No reason we can't keep both in the squad for the time being.

If you are looking at a centre with pace then Sutcliffe isn`t the answer either.

Yes he has size but Keinhorst has more desire and for me more of a rugby brain.

As it stands Moon is a better centre option than the other two and Moon is a better SO option that Sutcliffe.



I think for the WCC Sutcliffe could be on the bench to come on as a BR with Keinhorst preferred at LC.

Like many have said though it would be a shame to let either leave unless Moon moves back to LC to give us an attacking threat and Golding or Walker move to HB.

I agree about Keinhorst, a much better centre than Sutcliffe. It seems to me that nobody wants to lose face at HQ after everyone tipping him to be the next Sir Kevin but unfortunately every position he's been tried in he's not been able to hold his place. Jimmy is far ball in hand and he does put some grunt into his tackling. Sutcliffe seems a nice lad but thats probably his biggest problem

i am a fan of sutcliffe but he is starting to look like a bit of a dud, as you say does not look really strong in any position, looking like a lee Gaskel type player. possible an average super league player but could be great at championship. hope i am wrong, but he is not living up to his early potential at all. so for me on current form it has to be Jimmy sutcliffe on bench and have to fight for his place back. which might be a good thing might be the kick up he needs.

Sutcliffe’s still relatively inexperienced in terms of appearances. I think he’s a decent member of your squad. Surely competition for places is good? While he and Keinhorst battle it out it’s better for the team. I think it’s early to be saying either of them are duds. You can’t have superstars in every position nowadays.

I like Keinhorst because he looks like he has a rugby brain. He's like the opposite of Walters.



I also like Sutcliffe too, and I think some of the criticism of him is ridiculous. Until the end of last season when he played a few in a row he's hardly played centre at all, and not at all consistently. As it is he did a pretty good job there in both the play off vs Hull and the GF.



Also we have a number of forwards at the back end of their careers. I'd rather keep both of these two around than sign someone just for the sake of it if as expected we lose at least one if not two to retirement at the end of the year.

I still think Sutcliffe's best chance of success is at 6. He's not tough enough for the pack. But he needs to learn his trade, probably as a centre or FB (though there's too much competition there), before tying down a SO spot. John Holmes, Hanley, John Joyner, Schofield all did that.

That's really stretching it to put him in the company of those individuals. No where near that level in any role. He isn't a 6, and constantly shown that. Said it before and he is a carbon copy of Gaskill at Huddersfield. If people find Gaskill level good enough, so be it, but that is the level of ability of Sutcliffe.

Think he'll make a decent centre given the opportunity.

I never said he was.