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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"Ellis could have his hand anywhere, but he chooses to put it in the vicinity of the ball. You can't poke a dog and complain when it bites.'"
Yep. Had his left arm on Ablett's right arm all the way through the play the ball process. Nailed on penalty as soon as the ball comes out in those circumstances.
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| and ablett wouldn't deliberately let go
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Yep. Had his left arm on Ablett's right arm all the way through the play the ball process. Nailed on penalty as soon as the ball comes out in those circumstances.'"
Except for the incident in the second half when Sinfield had his arm on mcgilvarys left arm at the ptb, ball comes loose and Hicks calls a knock on.
Aye, nailed on......
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| overall he didn't do too bad,as has been said, he let the game flow but ignored offsides and forward passes
but Leeds got just about every call in their favour in the last 10, i doubt the penalties on ablett and hardaker would have been given if it was the other way round.
but that's the way it goes.
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| All refs make mistakes.....but the best ones are the ones you 'hardly notice' and have a bit of respect/rapport with the players. Hicks was in that catergory last night.
I find it ironic that it is the generally the VR that now is just as likely to be more inconsistent and plain wrong. ... with the added derogatory indecisive replays we sometimes have to endure. I wonder what changes will be made (again) for next season.
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| Quote meast="meast"overall he didn't do too bad,as has been said, he let the game flow but ignored offsides and forward passes
but Leeds got just about every call in their favour in the last 10, i doubt the penalties on ablett and hardaker would have been given if it was the other way round.
but that's the way it goes.'" i
See Hudds fans on their board think Leeds got all the generous decisions. The two penalties Hudds kicked in the 2nd half were pretty generous decisions.
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| Quote meast="meast"overall he didn't do too bad,as has been said, he let the game flow but ignored offsides and forward passes
but Leeds got just about every call in their favour in the last 10, i doubt the penalties on ablett and hardaker would have been given if it was the other way round.
but that's the way it goes.'"
This sums up how refs can never win, he had a decent game but still gets called out as biased on no rational basis.
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| I don't see how anyone can say the penalty against Kopczak wasn't valid. It was probably the most clear cut penalty in the whole game.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"I don't see how anyone can say the penalty against Kopczak wasn't valid. It was probably the most clear cut penalty in the whole game.'"
Agree. You could argue the ablest penalty. They sometimes go either way but the shoulder charge was cut and dried
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| the ablett one was very dubious, like i said if that was the other way round it probably wouldn't have been given, there was an instance of the same with McGillvary and it was given as a knock on
the Kopczak one yes, by the rules it was a shoulder charge but only seen because hardaker went down "injured" and so it could be viewed on the screen, again, had it been the other way i'm not sure it would have been given.
i'm not saying he was or is biased i'm saying that certain decisions on another day could have gone the other way, i'm pretty sure there would be a meltdown on here if you had been penalised for the opposition dropping the ball?
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| Quote meast="meast"the ablett one was very dubious, like i said if that was the other way round it probably wouldn't have been given, there was an instance of the same with McGillvary and it was given as a knock on
the Kopczak one yes, by the rules it was a shoulder charge but only seen because hardaker went down "injured" and so it could be viewed on the screen, again, had it been the other way i'm not sure it would have been given.
i'm not saying he was or is biased i'm saying that certain decisions on another day could have gone the other way, i'm pretty sure there would be a meltdown on here if you had been penalised for the opposition dropping the ball?'"
You're not saying he was biased....you're just saying he wouldn't give them penalties to Hudds.......yeah same thing mate.
What do you think of the two penalties Hudds got given that they kicked for goal in the 2nd half? Let me guess, perfectly correct decisions?
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| I wasn't too impressed with Brough's technique on the Kopczak shoulder charge. To clamp Hardaker's legs in that fashion is very dangerous. I initially thought that was what the penalty was for.
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