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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Travelling up to Leigh to watch a RL international whilst his Bath teammates are playing one of the top teams in the division doesn't strike me as too committed to his RU cause.'"
Maybe. But on the other hand seeing so few people attend a League International at Leigh will bring him down to earth with a bang after experiencing the buzz from the 80,000 at Twickenham.
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| Hello i'm looking for my father, his name is David. He is around 6ft 4in and black. He spend most of his life on this website so if you find him please contact me
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Maybe. But on the other hand seeing so few people attend a League International at Leigh will bring him down to earth with a bang after experiencing the buzz from the 80,000 at Twickenham.'"
maybe.Sam strikes me as a guy who enjoys being the main man though.In RL the day he left lifting the NRL title and clive churchill medal he was just that.In RU its now clear he is not going to cut it at centre long term at international level.If he stays and learns his trade as flanker it could be 1-2 years before he forces his way back into the England fold and even then, it will take some going to become one of the very best in that position over that period so no certainties.These are his prime years too,meanwhile, he still has the get out of slotting right back into the game he left not 1 year ago and become a main man again.Guess we will know soon but if he intends to stick it out why not come out and quash these growing rumours?
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| Quote Biff Tannen="Biff Tannen"maybe.Sam strikes me as a guy who enjoys being the main man though.In RL the day he left lifting the NRL title and clive churchill medal he was just that.In RU its now clear he is not going to cut it at centre long term at international level.If he stays and learns his trade as flanker it could be 1-2 years before he forces his way back into the England fold and even then, it will take some going to become one of the very best in that position over that period so no certainties.These are his prime years too,meanwhile, he still has the get out of slotting right back into the game he left not 1 year ago and become a main man again.Guess we will know soon but if he intends to stick it out why not come out and quash these growing rumours?'"
But IMO Burgess has all that is required to make it as a back rower and looking at the opposition lets not pretend England are blessed with world class forwards because they are not. He has the physique and fitness to cover the ground in defence and attack it is not as though we have flankers that can turn the ball over as it is or not give penalties away. Ok he has to learn to either lift or be lifted in the lineout... not really rocket science is it. So I think he could well be back in contention within a year and this time he would be selected on merit.
Well I hope the rumours prove to be true and we see him at Headingley next season
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| There are enough bits of this puzzle to outline 2 very different pictures. One where he stays in RU and one where he comes back to RL. Convincing scenarios have been put together for both options, but we don't know what his plans are and we're just going to have to wait this one out.
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| After surveying all the evidence and seperating the fact from the fiction I've developed a hypothesis, that Burgess will either stay in RU or return to league.
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"After surveying all the evidence and seperating the fact from the fiction I've developed a hypothesis, that Burgess will either stay in RU or return to league.'"
What about doing a Jarryd Hayne, are we definitely ruling that option out?
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| Whatever the eventual outcome regarding where Sam plays either his Rugger or Rugby League and in which hemisphere?
The Rhinos have certainly had great free worldwide publicity and as only Gary H knows whether we were ever in for him or not, he will certainly be glad of the Rhinos name being dropped into articles worldwide
Sam would be a great signing tho
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| Quote 3-1tothechampions="3-1tothechampions"Hello i'm looking for my father, his name is David. He is around 6ft 4in and black. He spend most of his life on this website so if you find him please contact me'"
wtf 
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| Quote 3-1tothechampions="3-1tothechampions"Hello i'm looking for my father, his name is David. He is around 6ft 4in and black. He spend most of his life on this website so if you find him please contact me'"
Does your Dad know Sam Burgess?
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| I have absolutely no inside info, but I'm guessing he'll at least see out his contract at Bath. The only reason I think that is because Burgess has a huge amount of self confidence and I find it hard to believe his ego would allow him to walk away as a 'failure' at RU. In addition, if he wants to go back to Souths with huge fanfare (as SBW did when he joined the Roosters) he needs to be away a bit longer IMO.
The idea that he's likely to be back in the England RU side any time soon is ridiculous. Never mind the fact that he need to pick up the skills he needs and simply doesn't have yet, the England coach going forward is not going to be Lancaster, and Farrell will be gone too. Any other coach will have seen how Lancaster has been derided for picking Burgess, and will need to be absolutely convinced he's the best player in his position to pick him. I'd say the chances of him getting another game in the forwards within a year are minimal.
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"I have absolutely no inside info, but I'm guessing he'll at least see out his contract at Bath. The only reason I think that is because Burgess has a huge amount of self confidence and I find it hard to believe his ego would allow him to walk away as a 'failure' at RU. In addition, if he wants to go back to Souths with huge fanfare (as SBW did when he joined the Roosters) he needs to be away a bit longer IMO.
The idea that he's likely to be back in the England RU side any time soon is ridiculous. Never mind the fact that he need to pick up the skills he needs and simply doesn't have yet, the England coach going forward is not going to be Lancaster, and Farrell will be gone too. Any other coach will have seen how Lancaster has been derided for picking Burgess, and will need to be absolutely convinced he's the best player in his position to pick him. I'd say the chances of him getting another game in the forwards within a year are minimal.'"
I think the 2nd paragraph is exactly why he will leave. I don't think he went there just to play club rugby and I think 2 years is a more likely gap for his international exile having to learn that position. Like you said, it's likely to be a new coaching team and they won't be in a rush to include after the backlash the current regime got for picking him.
Also still think England were behind signing him regardless of it allegedly all being on Bath and they'll be happy to let him leave as they won't have any interest in picking him now as shown by him being dumped out the team to play Uruguay when elimination had been confirmed.
The media and public will demand heads to roll for the World Cup disaster and Lancaster, Farrell and Burgess are the most likely candidates to appease the mob baying for blood.
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