I would hope Mr Hetherington based his assessment of our CC record on success rather than just making up the numbers.



Going by success our record is behind Wigan, Warrington, Saints and Bradford.

Inaccurate figures. What a surprise.



Shut up numpty.

Over the last three years.



Surely you have to regard getting to the final as a greater level of success than going out in your first round?

Winning still means more - hence my pointing out that both Warrington and Wigan can be regarded to have been more successful in the CC despite have made only two and one finals respectively, rather than three.

So you must rate Saints as having a better record than us in grand finals over the last five seasons?

I wouldn't have thought so. He'd give them five "points" for attending five finals. We'd have eight "points" for attending four and winning four.

Let me get this right... you're saying that getting to a final means greater success than winning a final?



Many might disagree with your philosophy.

No, I'm saying that for all those moaning about how bad we've been in the last three seasons, we've been more consistently successful than some of the sides people on here wax lyrical about, and complain about us being 'miles behind'.



But clearly that didn't get through the lead-lined skull containing your double-digit IQ.

There's no such scoring system in the post I quoted.

Although we had a decent dig last year the other 2 CC finals we have been second best by far and the score reflected as such.

It's time to freshen things up imo mainly the pack and IF remain as inconsistent next year during the regular SL season then questions need to be asked re-the coaching it may seem harsh but the discipline and consistency have been poor we've been found wanting defensively far too many times and the old guard need moving on OR rotated and used less more often.

Its great to make the CC final but pi'd personally prefer not to get there rather than get there and get hammered no matter what spin some fans or GH put on it we were outclassed.

I also hope GH doesn't go back on his promise of a cull within the 1st team squad but i do disagree with him that the Coaches aren't accountable for some sh## performances this year.

That's why I put "points" in "quotes"

Is that what he/she is saying?



Really, is it? I have absolutely no idea.



It seems to include figures for 2010 and 2011, which is an odd way to evaluate this season. Once the actual numbers started appearing I glazed over.

Fair enough. The OP's argument would have been strengthened had they awarded "points" in the manner you suggested. Unless, that is, they were actually claiming that a final appearance was as important as a victory. Which may be the case, as the final table they posted gives both final victories and defeats identical weighting.