Completely agree and have said the same thing about Watkins on here previously. It's the one flaw in Watkins game - my words are 'he needs a bit of c*nt in him. He's got all the attacking skills and nouse, very solid defensively, if he just had that desire to physically dominate everyone, he'd be almost unplayable. He's just too nice. And as for Sutcliffe, he's just too quiet and passive.

I know I started the thread but it's by no means a criticism of Sutcliffe as he's done well at centre....it's just imo that Keinhorst has been better. So keep picking Sutcliffe now in hope of what he COULD be in 3/4/5 years or pick Keinhorst who is better NOW.

Its probably worth adding that there's 4 years between them, is a year of Jimmy stunting the future? For me I'd stick with Liam to aid his development (at LC, with decent back up kicking)

If Keinhorst was 30+ then yes but he's 27 so could have 4/5 very good years at centre for us.



If Sutcliffe HADN'T come through our academy and we signed him from elsewhere would people still tip him ahead of Keinhors (especially if Keinhorst was a local Leeds lad?)

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Keinhorst is a local Leeds lad, he’s just a bit German as well.

Think both should be in the 17. Could Jimmy not play left second row?

Sutcliffe seems to be getting a lot of stick but remember he came up with the game winning try in the semi final last year and had a really good game in the GF, forcing a few drop outs.



Would probably have both in the 17, maybe starting Sutcliffe at centre and bringing Jimmy off the bench and moving Sutcliffe to back row.

I understand that at least 2 clubs are looking at Keinhorst and Leeds are not likely to stand in his way if he wants to move on. Don't know which clubs but Wakey and Hull KR are possibles. However, worth pointing out that was the position before Leeds started suffering the injury problems. Could do with Ferres and Galloway back soon.

I'd be sorry to see him leave, I think he gives depth to our squad. But if he gets the offer of a decent salary and the probability of a starting berh else where, who could blame him for giving it a go.

Leeds have turned down offers from unnamed clubs for Keinhorst already this year. He’s out of contract at the end of the season and he is uncertain his future is with Leeds. League express reports.

well he wont be on top $ at Leeds so I bet he would double his money with a move unless Gary makes him a good offer