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In my opinion the VR is a waste of time. Far from resolving controversial decisions it has heightened them. Until you get objective rather than subjective decisions made by infallible human beings (impossible) then what's the point?
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"Well at least it evened out our try after a blatant knock on by Ablett.'"
except it wasn't obvious. took a slow motion replay to see it. can understand why it was missed.
and two wrongs don't make a right in most peoples worlds |
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"In my opinion the VR is a waste of time. Far from resolving controversial decisions it has heightened them. Until you get objective rather than subjective decisions made by infallible human beings (impossible) then what's the point?'"
We had an entirely objective obstruction rule, which was entirely reliant on where the player with the ball went in comparison to team-mates in front of him.
The chimps in the Sky commentary box complained about it. Fans who don't understand the game complained about it. Coaches complained about it, whenever it didn't work in their favour.
As a result, it got changed back to an interpretation entirely reliant on the referee making a subjective judgement. Sometimes as a sport we don't half shoot ourselves in the foot. |
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| Quote Omar Little="Omar Little"So from Wells description of the VRefs decision (which he did say wasn't how he saw it) seems Huby was fine because whilst he initially intentionally obstructed Cuthburtson/but by the time the line was broken Hubywas facing his own line and therefore not actively obstructing (even tho he was actually physically obstructing)
WTF?'"
Obstruction or not, Cuthbertson had all the time in the world to tackle Wardle after the contact with Huby. He chose to throw his arms in the air and hope for a refs call which correctly did not come. If he had made the effort instead of claiming obstruction he could have tackle Wardle easy. |
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| Quote Fetlar="Fetlar"I thought Mulhern was excellent: he completely owned Crabtree. Gut feeling that Singleton and Mulhern could both have a big future in this team.
Keinhorst's contribution was also encouraging.'"
Are you having a laugh, Crabtree made more metres than any other forward for the time he was on. |
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"In the end perhaps a fair result and given our injuries one I would have accepted before the match. Although it is disappointing to see an 22-8 lead whittled down it just shows how momentum is the key in the modern game.
IMO to suggest Huddersfield were poor in the first half disrespects both them and Leeds. They started well we played some good rugby and were well on top at half time. The second half swing in momentum came in part as a result of a string of penalties against Leeds combined with a much improved Brough which enthused the whole Huddersfield side. During this period I thought our defense was outstanding led by JP and Cuthbo although the latter made rather a meal of the obstruction he perhaps expected that Hardaker would not have been so easily swotted out of the way for the try.
I have been one of Sinfield's biggest fans throughout his career but all good things come to an end eventually as I have witnessed with the many other great players in almost 60 years of watching our great game. Given the small amount of possession we had in the second half even Sinfield at his very best would have struggle to turn the tide. Those that are suggesting he should have been in the side are ignoring the fact that his form for almost a year has been way down and that includes his leadership performances. This does not mean that Sinfield will not still play a useful part as the season rolls on. I am sure he will.
Keinhorst did ok and for this game Mac was right to continue with Watkins on the wing due to the danger of Brough's kicking game. JJB did remarkably well to return after injury with so much energy and Delaney was again in form until he had to go off. It is easy to be critical of creative players when things don't come off and McGuire's missed touch finder was one such occasion but it was very much the sort of thing Sinfield would have tried to gain better field position at a time when we needed to be out of our own half.
Mac has shown he will gradually introduce the youngsters and not overplay them but when ready he will back them which includes allowing them to make the mistakes they will learn from. It is somewhat ironic that some of those that were critical of Mac for not playing the youngsters more often are now at him for allowing the transition to progress.
On the positive side I thought the coach and players did well in the short turn around to improve on the performance of the Warrington game and now we get a longer time to recover energy and prepare for the Widnes game.'"
Sensible post from a Rhinos supporter.
Constructive without all the bellyaching from most of the dross on this forum, make no wonder all fans of other teams
chant we all hate Rhinos. In fact I don`t think we hate the Rhinos ( it`s the fans ) |
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| Quote Giantscorpio="Giantscorpio"Sensible post from a Rhinos supporter.
Constructive without all the bellyaching from most of the dross on this forum, make no wonder all fans of other teams
chant we all hate Rhinos. In fact I don`t think we hate the Rhinos ( it`s the fans )'"
We should resort to antisemitism to bring us in line with other clubs in West Yorkshire. |
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| Quote Giantscorpio="Giantscorpio"Are you having a laugh, Crabtree made more metres than any other forward for the time he was on.'"
I presume your opinion is based on stats, for me Crabtree for his size does not run his weight. For what it's worth I thought a draw was a fair result.
We did not do enough in the second half, neither did you in the first half. See you in the challenge cup. |
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| Quote Giantscorpio="Giantscorpio"Obstruction or not, Cuthbertson had all the time in the world to tackle Wardle after the contact with Huby. He chose to throw his arms in the air and hope for a refs call which correctly did not come. If he had made the effort instead of claiming obstruction he could have tackle Wardle easy.'"
you are correct. however when you say obstruction or not it was. huby stopped in the line and deliberately blocked cuthbertson. after that I agree he could have moved but the onus is on the attacker not to be where he was |
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| Quote Giantscorpio="Giantscorpio"Obstruction or not, Cuthbertson had all the time in the world to tackle Wardle after the contact with Huby. He chose to throw his arms in the air and hope for a refs call which correctly did not come. If he had made the effort instead of claiming obstruction he could have tackle Wardle easy.'"
the point of the obstruction rule is that players can be out of position to effect a tackle. if you honestly believe that huby played no part in that phase of play then i thnk you need to take of your hudds glasses and think about what your interpretation would of been had it been at other end of the field.
the ref is lucky it didnt with the way Brough was acting..... |
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| Quote Backwoodsman="Backwoodsman"I presume your opinion is based on stats, for me Crabtree for his size does not run his weight. '"
He sometimes gives that impression but I think the truth lies closer to him not really hurting anyone when he does take the ball in. He can take some putting down - sometimes - but somehow never seems to take a right lot out of the defence. Bit like Kyle Amor. |
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That was never an obstruction in s month of Sundays. If Cuthbertson's antics had have succeeded in disallowing a try it would have been poor form. Cuthbertson was pishing about and should have attempted a tackle. Leeds fans who think Cuthbertson's antics should have worked, imagine Brough, Briers or some other "Villain" acting up that way. You'be be having a fit.
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