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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I pay to watch the best, not live in the past. If I wanted that I would rather see the likes of ET, Hanley, Schofield. Saying that they would probably do a better job. That is the problem with sentiment, and people with their heads in the sand, this is what those great players will be remembered for, rather than what happened before.'"
Any response to the fact that until this week McGuire had more try assists than Gale, and even now only Williams and Gale have more try assists in the league?
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| Quote Frosties.="Frosties."But he's not wrong is he? We looked miles better on Friday than we have for the majority of this season. You just know he will bring Mcguire & JJB back in because that's how it is.
I'm mostly hoping that Keinhorst could return which would be a massive boost.'"
Waa we really so good on Thursday? I thought we was pretty ordinary.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I pay to watch the best, not live in the past. If I wanted that I would rather see the likes of ET, Hanley, Schofield. Saying that they would probably do a better job. That is the problem with sentiment, and people with their heads in the sand, this is what those great players will be remembered for, rather than what happened before.'"
Nothing wrong with looking to the present/future rather than the past and if people want older players to move on then fine.
However, repeatedly calling players who have helped us win many titles and memories we'll never forget as "has-beens" is just quite frankly pathetic, disrespectful and just makes you look an complete ingrate.
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| Quote Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Waa we really so good on Thursday? I thought we was pretty ordinary.'"
We weren't anything noticeably better. It's just that some posters are exaggerating the performance because the personal changes they wanted to see happened so are trying to make it into something more than it was.
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| we weren't better but we did have a kicking game, which we haven't all season.
we looked more solid too
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| How far is keinhorst away from a comeback?
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| To refer to players like McGuire Burrow and JJB as 'has beens' is very disingenuous. I understand that they're not as good as they were, but they're still a major asset to the squad and the club as a whole. It's also worth noting that loyalty works both ways. I don't doubt that players like like JJB, McGuire, and Burrow could've left to earn more money elsewhere, but they chose to stay and helped build one of the most successful sides in RL history. Now they're coming to the end of their careers, and if keeping them for a season or two past their sell by date is the price we have to pay for that success, then so be it.
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| all fair points but as Graham Murray once said, it's better a great player retires a year to early than a year to late.
if we win silverware this year I hope all 3 retire with there reputations still intact
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| Think all 3 have earmed the right to decide their own retirement if im honest. JJB still grafts every week and im sure he must be a massive asset in the changing room too so i see no need for him to retire just yet.
Burrow still shows class at times, doesnt appear to have lost much pace that i can see. He has taken some hammer over the years but if he wants to play on then he offers impact off bench and can still break a game open.
Maggsy's pace has gone but its a credit to him that hes adapted his game and is a key player from what i see.
All 3 still contribute massively and they are 3 of the greatest weve ever had. If they want to go round again thats fine by me. All 3 will know when its time to stop.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"To refer to players like McGuire Burrow and JJB as 'has beens' is very disingenuous. I understand that they're not as good as they were, but they're still a major asset to the squad and the club as a whole. It's also worth noting that loyalty works both ways. I don't doubt that players like like JJB, McGuire, and Burrow could've left to earn more money elsewhere, but they chose to stay and helped build one of the most successful sides in RL history. Now they're coming to the end of their careers, and if keeping them for a season or two past their sell by date is the price we have to pay for that success, then so be it.'"
Oh get over yourself princess. They are not a major asset at all this year, they have run their course, and their loyalty has already been rewarded. Talking with JJB for a good half hour this afternoon and related the exact same thing to his face. He agreed it was a hard decision to leave it, and he wanted someone else to make the decision for him. Was in full agreement that there needs to be a cut off and the club move on, just doesn't want to say when.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Oh get over yourself princess. They are not a major asset at all this year, they have run their course, and their loyalty has already been rewarded. Talking with JJB for a good half hour this afternoon and related the exact same thing to his face. He agreed it was a hard decision to leave it, and he wanted someone else to make the decision for him. Was in full agreement that there needs to be a cut off and the club move on, just doesn't want to say when.'"
Get over myself? Oh, the irony.
So, you called JJB a has been to his face? 
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Get over myself? Oh, the irony.

So, you called JJB a has been to his face?
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Yes I told him his time is up and he needs to walk away as with others, exactly as just put in post above, which would constitute has been. He's still here now if you want to come over to Oulton Rugby Club.
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