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Do you remember when BM took over and he was telling anyone who'd listen about his attacking philosiphy and how teams win games by scoring more points than the opposition. We then started 2011 by playing 'hot potato' rugby and shipping a shed load of points. It's amazing how different his 'philosiphy' seems to be now, and how boring we have become to watch.

I agree with you, I just don't think he has the nous required to take us any further than he has.

So if McDermott isn't the man to take us forward into a new era. Who is?

Well it should & could have been Daryl Powell but that bus has left.

Jamie Peacock?

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Leeds need an experienced coach with high level NRL experience and effectively managing change - Sheens would be good. They need a coach who has no affiliation to the existing squad who can make decisions based on what goes on between his ears and not what is going on in his chest.

I expect Leeds to win the treble, just like every other season of the past 30 odd seasons of supporting Leeds. Players at a club like Leeds should always go into a season expecting to win the lot and so should us supporters.

You "expect" or "hope"? They are quite different things. In some years "expect" probably has been fair, whereas in others I imagine it will have been "hope" only, no matter how much you convinced yourself otherwise.



I 'hope' to have a £100k job and a fancy car come the end of the 2015 season, but nothing in my life at the moment gives me grounds to 'expect' that to happen. For some of you though (beginning from a better starting point) maybe you are justifiably 'expecting' those things by the season's end.

I think we'll scrape into the 8. just. The club have had their head in the sand about replacing the 'golden generation' the spine of the team is fading and our CC win was probably realistically their last Hurrah. I hope they prove me wrong (and its not beyond these players) but I think were going to see a fallow period again I just hope its a few years rather than decades like the 80s and 90s. Its laudable that the club wants to build from within but unless you have genuinely world class players consitently coming through you have to recruit from elsewhere and there is a complete reluctance to do that.

Phil, i respect your opinion and see where your coming from but unless we get a horrendous stretch of injuries to the key players no way we just scrape the 8.that starting 17 is still as good as any in this competition despite it being in its last days.dont underestimate the effect a good pre season will have done for the older lads like JJB Sinfield Mcguire and Burrow who are used to being hammered with international fixtures,but were not involved for the first time in ages end of last year.it worked wonders for JP and should be a boost for those lads.



Also, the change in format should see us dialed in for the whole season.we will soon see, i don't think we will get top two as Saints and wire look a shade above but 3rd or 4th should be more than within this squads capabilities.

I agree. Think quite a few are basing their thoughts of struggle solely on how we struggled to score points, which is of course still a big concern looking ahead to this year. However an undeniable fact is this team conceded the fewest points out of anybody last year with an average of less than 16 pts against for a total of 421.....had we gone full strength against Bradford and London and not shipped 60 points in those games then we probably would've been the only side since it became a 27-game-competition to have conceded under 400 for the year. Those kind of numbers, regardless of attacking issues will see us nowhere near a fight just to get in the 8......and there's nothing really to suggest that we can't be as similarly impressive defensive-wise this year.

True but I think given the squad we have, a correct move. Play to you strengths and looking at our (McDermott's) strongest 17 then their key attributes are experience and leadership and game management. So winning games like how we did at Wembley, whilst not exciting is the correct way to go with the given line-up we have. Like a player adapting his game, Ryan Giggs was a flying winger down the left in the 90's running at and past defenders, in his last few years he was a central midfield guy controlling the tempo and possession of his team around him.