I started a thread a while back "Would Rhinos make the Top 4', it now looks as though the contenders Huddersfield and Hull are falling away, I reckon you will finish 4th.

The club call will be interesting this year. After all, it was pretty obvious who Leeds would pick last year. This time? It would take a very brave team to pick Leeds or St Helens out as their preferred opponents if it came to that.

As long as the team with the choice plumps for the team they would have met anyway (ie lowest qualifier) then they should minimise the added incentive to their opposition.



Whoever they pick is going to use the 'they fancy their chances against us so lets show 'em' spiel anyway.

25 points a game conceded is ridiculous.

Agreed!

Not sure why top 4 is seen as so vital unless the week 1 match can be won. Under the new system the teams finishing 3 and 4 have a played 4 lost 4 record.



Reaching the play offs fit and firing is more important than final position.

Are you talking directly about the KR game?



If so I think you are way out.



25 points converts to leaking 4 trys. On average that's letting in one try per quarter. In a game which KR totally dominated I don't think the points we leaked were a concern. The main concerns to me was the poor completion rate (handling errors, poor passing etc) and our general kicking game.



As a whole this year our defence has been poor, very poor infact. So I am in part agreement with you.

We will lose another 2 probably. I think Hull might lose 3, but let's hope they do.

Whoever gets 4th will play Wigan in week one won't they?



I would fancy us or Saints to beat Wigan, but Saints would be equally happy going to Wire, therefore I would say top 4 probably is important.

Because 4th gets a second shot if they lose week 1, 5th doesn't.



*That's if I've read the play off's correctly.

don't the top 4 get a rest in week one? or is it week 2? buggered if i can remember

Pinched from redvee,



Week One



* Qualifying Play Off 1: 1st vs 4th (winner receives a bye to week three)

* Qualifying Play Off 2: 2nd vs 3rd (winner receives a bye to week three)



* Elimination Play Off 1: 5th vs 8th (loser goes out)

* Elimination Play Off 2: 6th vs 7th (loser goes out)



Week Two



* Preliminary Semi Final 1: Higher-ranked QPO Loser vs lower-ranked EPO Winner

* Preliminary Semi Final 2: Lower-ranked QPO Loser vs higher-ranked EPO Winner



Week Three



* Qualifying Semi Final 1: Higher-ranked QPO Winner vs PSF Winner of their choice*

* Qualifying Semi Final 2: Lower-ranked QPO Winner vs other PSF Winner *



Week Four



* Grand Final: QSF1 Winner vs QSF2 Winner



*Highest placed winner in week one have the right to choose their opponent from the two winners in week 2.