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| Quote Fearless' Headguard="Fearless' Headguard"Insightful stuff.
Consumer behaviour must be quite differant in your world as traditionally most supermarkets tend to have a steady flow of trade throughout the day, peaking between 12 - 1 and 5-7.
It is unusual at best for around 6000+ shoppers to turn up en masse within a half hour period, do all their shopping and then leave again, almost as one, an hour and a half later. But apart from that, a well thought out point.'"
Where do I suggest that the traffic will be constantly at match day levels???
Quite clearly I put "the equivalent of match day traffic on their doorstep every DAY".
The biggest problem you have is recognising you have a problem.
Residents want convenient shopping - they don't want a superstore and the associated traffic on theor doorstep.
Also the road infrastructure is inadequate, but hopefully you can overcome these issues.
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| Quote jourdmart="jourdmart"Sadly, that pretty much sums up Cas town centre nowadays anyway. There's only really the market that has any representation of independant traders. I don't think a large food orientated supermarket on Wheldon Road is going to damage business there any more than Asda at Glasshoughton has. The main issue, as many have pointed out, is access. The roundabout at the bottom of the bridge is bad enough on normal weekends - it could be a nightmare without new access points (new bridge and road at the old Wheldale pit?).'"
Council needs to get its act together or town centres will give up on what little life they have left. Free parking and cheaper rates for small shops would be a start.
As for WR, its a pity you can't build your stadium there, with a bit of imagination it would make a fantastic riverside stadium and would actually bring money into the town centre rather than its periphery.
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| Quote dboy="dboy"Where do I suggest that the traffic will be constantly at match day levels???
Residents want convenient shopping - they don't want a superstore and the associated traffic on theor doorstep.
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Wrong! Residents want a hypermarket with free parking on somebody elses doorstep!
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| Quote wakeyrule="wakeyrule"Wrong! Residents want a hypermarket with free parking on somebody elses doorstep!'"
Errm...so I am right then!?
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| Quote dboy="dboy"Errm...so I am right then!?'"
Depends what you meant - you did say that they don't want a superstore, but I am happy to concede that you meant thay WANT a superstore, but display NIMBY tendencies!
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| so cas will have traffic problems at wheldon road and so will newmarket as i travel up that rd everyday and trying to turn right at that junction is a nightmare
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| plus i wanna know why wakefield wildcats are so interested in our posts on the cas site is your site boring
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| plus i wanna know why wakefield wildcats are so interested in our posts on the cas site is your site boring
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| Quote mallcmjlm100="mallcmjlm100"so cas will have traffic problems at wheldon road and so will newmarket as i travel up that rd everyday and trying to turn right at that junction is a nightmare'"
Try a different route then! Its up to the planners to sort WR out, just like they have for Nemarket if it gets built. Lets not start another 'Ours will be ready first' bitch=fest, eh?
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| Quote mallcmjlm100="mallcmjlm100"plus i wanna know why wakefield wildcats are so interested in our posts on the cas site is your site boring'"
OK, I heard you first time! Such a devastating quip I can't think of a come-back! 
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| Quote wakeyrule="wakeyrule"Having said that, the supermarkets won't be interested in the site if there are access problems, as this would put customers off, and the planning department/highways are well clued up on this - the anti-supermarket lobby around the country has seen to that!'"
Nope. Planning permission was granted for a Tesco superstore in Stourport-on-Severn, Worcestershire (where I live). Oddly, it's in a similar situation to Wheldon Road (on the site of an old Carpet Factory, nearby some former industrial space surrounded by former industrial housing, no local retail sites and by a river.) The traffic situation in Stourport is much worse than it is down in that area of Castleford, objections were lodged by residents, shopkeepers, the other major Supermarket in the town (Co-Operative), and still planning consent was given.
So I wouldn't write it off just by that type of speculation yet. At the end of the day, if Opus is involved, they must be fairly confident of getting permission. They're in it for business, pure and simple. If they didn't think it was possible to do, they wouldn't have touched it with a bargepole, and they have much, much more experience of these type of projects than most of us.
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| I'm not writing it off, and I take your point that big business doesn't chuck money around unless there is a real chance of a good return. I would assume that if access was an insurmountable problem you wouldn't have got this far with the sale. All I would say is that from the experience Trinity have had I would bet that you if think access may be a problem, it won't be - but something else will sneak up behind you and try to pull the rug out from under you!
I was actually looking at access from the supermarkets point of view, not the residents (although I'm sure the supermarket would have a deep and heartfelt concern for any inconvenience they may cause the neighbours - Ha!). If its too hard to get to, customers will go elsewhere. Thats why I don't believe it will be a problem - you'ld still be trying to get any interest in the land.
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