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| Quote the_grobs="the_grobs"Consistency please RFL!!!
Clearly heard tha abuse of James Graham (you fat Gin B'd) in the first half, during the first 6 or 7 mins. Lets presume the respect tape was played...as it should have been.
Leeds than failed to control this section of the crowd, as Cas were penalised for....becuase it was clearly being shouted again in the 30th min, followed by the Ref is a W.... in the 60th minute.
Having known what has happened to Cas, and then still allowing multiple offences of abuse during this game, and failing to control it surely the RFL have to make an even bigger example of Leeds. But then again, the RFL love Leeds so nowt will happen.
(or do the RFL simply face the fact tht it is impossible to control such events?)
Who's for writing to the RFL, expressing how we were offended by what we heard, and asking what action they will be taking????'"
What about when we were chanting ''Grand Final Bitches'' or is that ok as were reffering to them as a collective?

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| I was at the game, am fat and have a ginger beard. I thought the South Stand were chanting about me, and I'm very offended
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| This is what one of their mods is saying about Cas, what do you expect
Quote McLaren_Field="McLaren_Field"Poor lambs, they're a club with a history of supporters using racial and homophobic abuse, both of which are illegal in law (and we're not just talking "guidelines or "policies"icon_wink.gif, they've been hauled before the RFL for it and some of their supporters just can't see where its all gone wrong.
I believe the saying in Hull is "You can't teach pork"'"
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| Quote castigers13="castigers13"news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6725653.stm'"
That link should also be sent to the RFL.
Not only were there the chants about Graham, but there was also the abuse of the referee, with him being called a w*****r. Not once did I hear the respect announcement on the tv.
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| You cannot equate generic jokes about being "fat and ginger" to direct, homophobic, vivid abuse. Homophobic abuse is illegal.
If James Graham came out and said "I find that offensive", then you might have a basis. However I am 99% sure he gets worse from his own team mates (I can say this as my best mate is ginger), and it wouldn't surprise me if chants of that kind actually helped get him psyched up.
The bottom line is you are kidding yourselves if you think anything will come of this.
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| Good post they should if the RL are consistent this is still descrimination of the highest order this is more serious than yours as this was the whole stand and not just a few mindless idiots.
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| Quote Matt King's Barber="Matt King's Barber"You cannot equate generic jokes about being "fat and ginger" to direct, homophobic, vivid abuse. Homophobic abuse is illegal.
If James Graham came out and said "I find that offensive", then you might have a basis. However I am 99% sure he gets worse from his own team mates (I can say this as my best mate is ginger), and it wouldn't surprise me if chants of that kind actually helped get him psyched up.
The bottom line is you are kidding yourselves if you think anything will come of this.'"
Ah, the old 'my best friend is...' defence, it works every time.
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| It isn't a defence I am just using anecdotal evidence of how a group of young lads who are all mates will probably make jokes about one of the mates being ginger.
In my close circle of friends I happen to have mates who are ginger and gay and black.
I don't know what it is inside me, but I would never make a racist/homophobic comment, yet the ginger jokes come thick and fast.
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| The point I am trying to make is, imagine the St Helens dressing room.
can you see jokes being made by one player about Graham being ginger? YES.
can you see jokes being made by one player about Eastmond being black? NO.
if a St Helens player announced he was gay, can you see jokes (of the same calibre that were chanted at Castleford) being made by one player towards the other player? NO.
On the basis of that you cannot equate illegal abuse with what is common at every sports venue across the country.
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| Quote Matt King's Barber="Matt King's Barber"if a St Helens player announced he was gay, can you see jokes (of the same calibre that were chanted at Castleford) being made by one player towards the other player? NO.
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Yep, I'm sure worse wouldn't be said to GT in the Crusaders dressing room, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if they made soap in the showers jokes in a light hearted manner.
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| Quote Matt King's Barber="Matt King's Barber"
can you see jokes being made by one player about Eastmond being black? NO.
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Why not, my hubby works with a lovely colour guy, been to our house a couple of times.
He gets the P taken out of him all the time.
I had a go at my hubby for doing it, our frield WHO IS COLOURED said no worries it dont bother him. He once had a golly(can i say that) bought by a work mate, he as it in his works van.
So team mates/work mates do have good humoured banter.
Some can take it some cant.
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