Cut out rest of quote but I have to say I pretty much agree, Saying Beswick is inconsistent is a bit tough on him though, Penky is in the same boat, they are both great players that we need to keep.

Please release Goddard, I have VERY rarely seen what he is supposed to show, never releases his winger, we would have won NRC if he'd put out the early ball.

Cherrypops, sorry but it;' time to bring the curtain down,there must be better props around Halifax at local level who would make more ground.

One to forget I think but that's because our expectations have risen so much in the last few years and that is mainly down to the hard work of the board.

Thanks guys.

Well the positive today and the only one, is that it makes the decisions of who to keep so much clearer. The papered cracks well and truely fell apart.



Miles.....keep

Feildhouse.... Keep as cover (cant have a worse game than today..can he?)

White ....Keep (unless Alex Brown is available giving you a different style)

Worricy ...keep

Patts....keep

Goddard....sorry ,pace gone ,reaction time too slow, probably too high a wage bill as senior player to merit keeping.

Haley......sorry, again pace gone steady player.

Nash ......has all the skills but clearly not the temperament. Spent all season totally out of condition. A big NO

Jones....confidence drained. Tried hard but even the basics went today. Sorry.

Black....body language today said he was off. Needs a new challenge and get himself back in shape...sorry all the best.

Aizue.... yes keep 1 year

Penky ....keep

Cherry....keep....still young keeps improving . Eat some steak and work like mad on the leg drive power off season.

Smith.....sorry but a season way too far.

Clayton .....improved over the last few games but sorry time to go. Better less expensive bigger players out there.

Bannister....depends what else is on offer runs good lines but size counts and he is relatively lightweight. open verdict

S Barlow .....Keep....yes he let them get to him today.

J Barlow .....havent seen enough to decide.

Gannon.....yes time to go.....but you cant fault his effort this year

beswick ....keep

chandler...keep . thought he should have had more game time in front of clayton and smith.

Watene....father time caught up ,but should have been on today with a lightweight pack . Time to go

Bowman... let him have a year at Keighley

Fairbank .....if we can have him yes. If not well played this year



it really does emphasis the poor recruitment last year which took us backwards not forwards.



What would I like in?



A robust pack and players who give far more than some did today.



Which leaves KH with quite a bit of team building to do, but a fair chunk off the wage bill with senior players leaving to bring in some new faces.

Good luck for 2012!



PS . I will buy the season ticket to help the recruitment fund!

From what BBC radio Leeds were saying Goddard has already put pen to paper with fax, we will await the announcements to start coming, however I expect slow releases to encourage people to get the new app on their phones for the news.

Can't arugue with any of these comments, a very good reflection on where we are today.



Ball's in-experience showed today in not putting Frank on the bench, we had absolutely no go Forward at all.

Miles- A good off-season and he'll be very sharp for us

Fieldhouse- Was very good as a trialist, can only improve with a full pre-season in a professional environment

Worrincy- Needs to see a sports psychologist to settle his nerves in tense situations and apply evo-stik to his fingers. Wins us games, but is our most gaff prone player.

White- Very good this year

Goddard- Injury prone, misses vital tackles, very inconsistent, hes had too many chances.

Haley- Haley isn't that bad a player, safe under pressure, can pass a ball under pressure, good back up player to keep

Nash- Go back to Aussie Park Rugby

Pats- Good organiser, but not a strike player, he can go for me.

Jones- Super goal kicker, would still be useful as back-up for injuries in the halfbacks

Black- Pay as you play if he can't get signed up with Swinton, Rochdale or Hunslet.

Gannon- As above

Aizue- Could be a risk, considering his age, like Watene this season. Lets hope he has another year in him.

Chez- Never broke a tackle in 4 years, Champ 1 material

Watene- Retirement, surely.

Ostick - Rochdale Mayfield

Barlow- Needs to grow up, come of age, depends whether Harrison thinks he'll be an asset or liability

Chandler- Needs to bulk out

Penky- Player of the season. We would have been fighting for relegation spots without him this year

Beswick- Only seems to play well in front of the SKY cameras. - Undecided.

Clayton- Offers little

Smith- Retirement, though has been impressive towards for back end of the season.

Bannister- Not bad at times, good defender too

Fairbank- will be an SL regular with Huddersfield next year.

Bowman- Needs to gel with the team and could be awesome. He doesn't seem part of the clique. Maybe Karl Harrison can work the lad better than Calland did. They didn't get on too well allegedly.



We need some top strike centres, a big bullying pack & a good scrum-half to work with Handforth.

Wholesale changes needed.

I might give my own opinions on players later but i feel Cherryholme has xome in for a lot of unfair stick one here. For me he has improved a lot and although he isnt an explosive prop in the Aizue mould he goes about his work well and shows a good attitude and is the type of player that you have to have in your team. Gets through a ton of work and has to be worth another year for me.

I agree fully

I think he could be ok depending on who plays around him. The pack this year was full of these workers who offer little going fwds in cherryholme, Clayton, smith, gannon. I think our attack suffered because of it

Hmm although he was a little over the top you can't pretend it has been a successful year off the field, a failed license bid and then our coach is sacked at a bizarre time with no explanation and toward the end of the season communications have been terrible with the fans and in general the club has been flat

Miles.....keep

Feildhouse.... Keep as cover

White ....Keep

Worrincy ...keep (His defense needs a lot of work though)

Patts....keep

Goddard.... Not good enough

Haley......Better alternatives out there, average player

Nash ......Keep, does stupid stuff sometimes but can look dangerous

Jones....Let Rhino work with him

Black....Think Blacks had his day, cheers for the memories!

Aizue.... Keep!

Penky ....Keep!

Cherry....Average player, better out there

Smith.....Not good enough

Clayton .....Not good enough

Bannister....50/50

Sam Barlow .....Keep plenty of potential

Josh Barlow .....Again, plenty of potential, looked well up for it at Sheff, keep!

Gannon.....Sorry Gannon, game over mate. Had a decent season though just cant see him getting through another.

Beswick ....Keep

Chandler...50/50

Watene....Too old/unfit, if he'd spend more time in the gym this year maybe he'd have played more.

Bowman... Keep! Loads of potential. We need some youth in our pack!

Fairbank .....If Giants will let him go then deffo sign him up!!

Keep



Miles...

Feildhouse..

White ..

Worrincy .

Patts...

Jones...

Aizue...

Penky ..

Cherry....

Bannister...

Sam Barlow ...

Josh Barlow ..

Beswick ..

Bowman...

Fairbank ..

Chandler...

Haley...



Release



Goddard. - living on past glories

Nash ... - there are better / fitter players out there

Black... - time for a change

Smith... - retire

Clayton - retire

Gannon.. - retire

Watene... - retire

Unlike yourself, my involvement with the club is only as a supporter, so therefore you are probably right in saying that I don’t have the insight that you have.



I have no doubt that the chaps have the best intentions for the club and it is also very impressive that they are committed and do the work voluntarily. However, if they aren’t doing the business then commitment counts for very little.



We can all sit on here and be critical of the RFL. But at the end of the day Halifax will not be playing in SL next season, which is a failure on the clubs part. The way in which the board reacted to the decision was indifferent, at best. Add to that the coach was sacked the day after a cup final and three months down the line fans are still unsure why. From my point of view, there is certainly grounds to be critical of the board for what has happened off field this season.



Could I do any better? Of course not. However, it doesn’t mean to say that I am happy with the current regime.



Reading the many ‘end of season’ threads I think Fax fans are unanimous that 2011 has been an underachievement - surely responsibility for this has to begin at the top?







Although I certainly don’t agree with what Chris says, I value what he has written, as he’s made some valid points. You say ‘put your hands in your pockets’. Isn’t that what I’ve done throughout a lifetime of following Fax? on season tickets and merchandise etc. On a fans forum it is inevitable that people will have different views, so if you are unable to accept that, and are unable to post a constructive response, then why bother using a forum at all?