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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Zero tolerance is unenforceable - so that is not an option.
The current driving test is the toughest it has ever been - to say it is joke is simple ludicrous. What the problem is you cannot legislate for testoeroned young men lacking experience. Even if you put the age up how do the new drivers get the essential experience without the driving on the road.'"
One thing you could do is put a curfew and restrictions on drivers for a period of time after passing their test, as they do in other countries
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"One thing you could do is put a curfew and restrictions on drivers for a period of time after passing their test, as they do in other countries'"
How do they get the experience if you restrict when they can drive - is their evidence to suggest more accidents happen at night time for this group of drivers
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"How do they get the experience if you restrict when they can drive - is their evidence to suggest more accidents happen at night time for this group of drivers'"
Generally it allows them to drive during working/education hours usually without their ' peers ' as passengers, any infringements results in disqualification
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Zero tolerance is unenforceable - so that is not an option.
The current driving test is the toughest it has ever been - to say it is joke is simple ludicrous. What the problem is you cannot legislate for testoeroned young men lacking experience. Even if you put the age up how do the new drivers get the essential experience without the driving on the road.'"
What you could do is stop new drivers having zero experience of driving on a motorway, ensure they have experience of driving in rain and at night, its a farce that 5 minutes after passing a test a driver can take a car on a motorway for the first time and without supervision.
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| Quote p1nkyw1nky1="p1nkyw1nky1"If you are stopped and found to be just under the limit in England you are ok , but drive north and get stopped again ten mins later you could be just over their limit and you are going to get a ban . If you are below the English limit , but over the Scot one , will you be banned from driving in England ?
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The same way you'd be banned if you were caught over the limit in any EU country.
The justice minister is another spineless idiot who is in the pocket of the chief constable, anything police Scotland want they get.
What should have happened is a graduated system of penalties as they have on the continent with fines and drink awareness courses for those with 50-79mg/L and a ban over 80mg/L
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"The same way you'd be banned if you were caught over the limit in any EU country.
The justice minister is another spineless idiot who is in the pocket of the chief constable, anything police Scotland want they get.
What should have happened is a graduated system of penalties as they have on the continent with fines and drink awareness courses for those with 50-79mg/L and a ban over 80mg/L'"
And if you're at the missing 80mg/l ... you get a cigar for brinkmanship?
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| I can see the sense of being banned from driving in Scotland if you are over the limit that they have set , but surely you should still be allowed to continue to drive in England as you would not have committed an offence there .
There are plenty of ANPR cameras around that could help enforce such bans . They read your registration plate and know if the vehicle is taxed , tested , insured , and who should be driving it . If you drive past one in a vehicle registered to a banned driver then you are instantly pinged to local plod cars and you will be pulled over . I was once stopped four times in one day near York for having no test/tax/insurance , and the vehicle not being registered . Plod said I had been highlighted by local cameras .
As for sorting out the drivers that are involved in the other six out of every seven deaths on Scottish roads .. Is it the drivers that are causing the problem ? Reports have only mentioned 'deaths on Scottish roads' . It could be blamless drivers that are going about their daily business and schoolchildren throwing themselves under the wheels . It could be people jumping from bridges and dying on the road . I am of course assuming that they are only counting human fatalities in their figures .
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"What you could do is stop new drivers having zero experience of driving on a motorway, ensure they have experience of driving in rain and at night, its a farce that 5 minutes after passing a test a driver can take a car on a motorway for the first time and without supervision.'"
Agreed a good point
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| Quote p1nkyw1nky1="p1nkyw1nky1"I can see the sense of being banned from driving in Scotland if you are over the limit that they have set , but surely you should still be allowed to continue to drive in England as you would not have committed an offence there .
There are plenty of ANPR cameras around that could help enforce such bans . They read your registration plate and know if the vehicle is taxed , tested , insured , and who should be driving it . If you drive past one in a vehicle registered to a banned driver then you are instantly pinged to local plod cars and you will be pulled over . I was once stopped four times in one day near York for having no test/tax/insurance , and the vehicle not being registered . Plod said I had been highlighted by local cameras . '"
So if (for instance) I cop a driving ban for drink driving in Scotland (highly unlikely), then the next time I go I just take the wifes car.
Or are you proposing that thousands of police man the roads and stop every car that is being driven by someone of the opposite sex to which is registered as the named owner ?
Could be fun with company cars and HGV's.
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| Just drive around with a Masonic case on your passenger seat, you'll be fine
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| Regarding my comment about thick drivers and a reply about competency
uk car accident compilation 3
Type into a well known video website search and watch. As for the rest of the world..............
The technology exists to prevent these people ever getting into a vehicle, but again it's costly. It could be done but it won't so just accept that there are idiots, drunk or not that are out to kill, injure and maim you.
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| Quote Leaguefan="Leaguefan"Regarding my comment about thick drivers and a reply about competency
uk car accident compilation 3
Type into a well known video website search and watch. As for the rest of the world..............
The technology exists to prevent these people ever getting into a vehicle, but again it's costly. It could be done but it won't so just accept that there are idiots, drunk or not that are out to kill, injure and maim you.'"
Accidents happen - to suggest drivers drunk or not are out to kill others is simply preposterous.
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