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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"So we simply rise up and kill the bastads that caused it, instead of each other'"
I don't know about you but - I haven't taken any courses on how to bring down an Apache helicopter with kitchen utensils and a garden hoe. 
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Damn, you're just too late.
That always happens to me too.'"
At least he was ahead of the times with his big hit single of '76.
[iForever and Ever[/i.
That's how long it's gonna take the Greeks to pay back that EU bail-out.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"At least he was ahead of the times with his big hit single of '76.
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That's how long it's gonna take the Greeks to pay back that EU bail-out.'"
With my hearing I always thought that was an instrumental track but then I was told that someone was singing on it too, could never hear them myself.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"I don't know about you but - I haven't taken any courses on how to bring down an Apache helicopter with kitchen utensils and a garden hoe.
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If some Iraqi farmers managed it, fook it, Im signing up with Corporal Cod'ead.

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| Unfortunately in austere times people always choose to turn to extremist nutjob parties.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Unfortunately in austere times people always choose to turn to extremist nutjob parties.'"
Like tories?
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| How are they going to pay for all this?
Oh...they are not.
If they default on their debts no-one will lend them any more money. They will have to leave the Euro and start from scratch, which is possibly what they want.
If any company ran its accounts the same way Greece did when it submitted its application to join the Euro the directors would be looking at some serious pokey.
But this is the problem - the EU has taken a group of countries who have little in common and decided to try and shoe-horn them all into a one size fits all economic policy.
Quite how anyone thought there could be a meeting of minds, culture and currency in countries that have absolutely nothing in common save as to approximate geographical location is beyond me.
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| Quote The Video Ref="The Video Ref"How are they going to pay for all this?
Oh...they are not.
If they default on their debts no-one will lend them any more money. They will have to leave the Euro and start from scratch, which is possibly what they want.
If any company ran its accounts the same way Greece did when it submitted its application to join the Euro the directors would be looking at some serious pokey.
But this is the problem - the EU has taken a group of countries who have little in common and decided to try and shoe-horn them all into a one size fits all economic policy.
Quite how anyone thought there could be a meeting of minds, culture and currency in countries that have absolutely nothing in common save as to approximate geographical location is beyond me.'"
KPMG did the audit
Go figure
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"KPMG did the audit
Go figure'"
Only as good as the figures they are given.
It is widely accepted that there was some serious creative accounting for Greece to get into the Euro.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"I'd have voted Demis Roussos in as Prime Minister.
Long time since I flogged him a load of silk for his kaftans.'"
Bad taste when he has just died.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Greece has overwhelmingly thrown its support behind Syriza and true to form the establishment has wasted absolutely no time predicting doom and destruction for the country, the Eurozone and potentially the EU as currently configured.
The austerity programme forced upon the Greek citizens has had little to no effect on the oligarchs and political & commercial elite. They still continue to avoid paying taxes and revel in the corruption that has hardly been dented. Instead it is the lower to middle classes but more especially the young who have had the greatest burden. When you perceive you have nothing left to lose, then a radical "solution" becomes more attractive.
The neo-cons and neo-liberals who advocate permanent austerity are the only ones who would ever gain. By refusing to continue to follow the austerity programme, at least Greece may force those holding the purse strings to look to alternatives to austerity. Hopefully Syriza can start to prise financial considerations from those who have been reluctant to contribute for so long. People who have enjoyed the patronage of various regimes from way back in the Metaxas days, may now find that they too must contribute in order to retain their financial advantages.
Next stops: Spain, Portugal and Italy. Unfortunately it looks like we in the UK will just continue to bumble along with our "mustn't grumble" attitude.
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It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
I would expect that the Eurozone's leadership will have by now developed a Plan B (that they will not want to implement) to let Greece leave. If that happens I fear the Greek people will suffer even more hardship than they have to date in the short to medium term. I do not think a military coup can be discounted at some point.
If Greece does leave in a relatively orderly way it will probably over time improve its lot as its currency will be very weak and so it should be able to export, attract mass tourism, etc.
All we are seeing and will continue to see is member states of the EU that have been heavily subsidised have drops in living standards because fundamentally their economies are weak compared with Germany who effectively dictate interest rates. So, in effect the EU serves no purpose.
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| Boy this is hard to get through but MONEY IS A CONCEPT! It is intangible. I still have on offer the opportunity for people to have 1,000,000 of a Pound sterling or USA dollar or Euro, if they can show me one. Not a metal disc or plastic disc or piece of paper as a representation but an actual one.
Money is what people say it is. Drachmas no longer exist, nor french francs but they could as could greedbuckets if people want to create them.
As for debt, the crazy thing is that the planets total debt is considerably more than than the planets GDP. Are the Klingons waiting for something as they are the creditors? Of course that is absurd but then the current system is absurd.
How can a planet live on GREED? That is what is going on and the situation is getting worse. People are educated, they can think, and eventually enough is enough will happen and the rich will hide in their prisons hoping the masses will not come near. It's happened throughout history and yet people never learn.
There are warning signs and even the armed forces may not come to the rescue in some situations as has been shown again through history.
We live in interesting times
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