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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"[iMr Hussein -:[/i ''Do you consider this bravery?'''"
They should have replied 'about as brave as gassing thousands of innocent children you scumbag'
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| Quote rover49="rover49"They should have replied 'about as brave as gassing thousands of innocent children you scumbag''"
As long as that justified [ius[/i killing tens of thousands of innocent children in Iraq.
It's all relative, isn't it?
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| Quote tugglesf78="tugglesf78"They do
Slightly OT - If anyone is looking for a good read, i can thoroughly recommend the book "Bury my heart at Wounded Knee"
A pretty horrific account of how the west was really won'"
You could also give a listen to the song of the same name by [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_Sainte-MarieBuffy Sainte-Marie[/url (it's on youtube), it chronicles the ongoing persecution of the North American First Nations. Such as:
The imprisonment of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_PeltierLeonard Peltier[/url
The death and desecration of the corpse of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Mae_AquashAnna Mae Aquash[/url
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| Seeing as you're talking about native populations there's this interesting article from the [url=http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/op-ed/Idle+More/7753967/story.htmlOttawa Citizen[/url about how it's still an issue today.
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| [iWhat treaty have the Sioux made with the white man that we have broken? Not one. What treaty have the white man ever made with us that they have kept? Not one. When I was a boy the Sioux owned the world; the sun rose and set on their land; they sent ten thousand men to battle. Where are the warriors today? Who slew them? Where are our lands? Who owns them?.....What law have I broken? Is it wrong for me to love my own? Is it wicked for me that my skin is red? Because I am a Sioux; because I was born where my father lived; because I would die for my people and my country? [/i
Sitting Bull - Tribal Chief - Hunkpapa Lakota Sioux
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| John Wayne quotes:
[i"I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."
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[i"Women have the right to work whrever they want, as long as they have the dinner on the table when you get home."[/i
And interestingly:
[i"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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[urlhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnwayne121857.html#JLheYbetwawUKx0G.99[/url
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| Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"John Wayne quotes:
[i"I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."
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[i"Women have the right to work whrever they want, as long as they have the dinner on the table when you get home."[/i
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[i"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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[urlhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnwayne121857.html#JLheYbetwawUKx0G.99[/url'"
And you thought he was acting when he made all them cowboy and injun movies? 
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"As long as that justified [ius[/i killing tens of thousands of innocent children in Iraq.
It's all relative, isn't it?'"
I seriously doubt any allied commander said 'right lads, today we will seek out and blow up innocent children', unfortunately there will always be unintended casualties in war, the difference is that Saddam INTENTIONALLY gassed the Kurds. The two are not the same.
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| Quote rover49="rover49"I seriously doubt any allied commander said 'right lads, today we will seek out and blow up innocent children', unfortunately there will always be unintended casualties in war, the difference is that Saddam INTENTIONALLY gassed the Kurds. The two are not the same.'"
You can try and justify it anyway you desire mate.
The allies were responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands depending on varying reports) of innocent women and children by the military action undertaken.
If you want to appease that FACT then that's your perogative.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"You can try and justify it anyway you desire mate.
The allies were responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands depending on varying reports) of innocent women and children by the military action undertaken.
If you want to appease that FACT then that's your perogative.'"
It still doesn't mean the two facts should be equated. 20,000 French civilians were killed during the D-Day campaign. It doesn't mean that that equates to the same evil as the Nazi's murdering 20,000 Jews in the city of Pinsk.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"You can try and justify it anyway you desire mate.
The allies were responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands depending on varying reports) of innocent women and children by the military action undertaken.
If you want to appease that FACT then that's your perogative.'"
I wasn't trying to appease or justify, just pointing out the difference between collateral casualties and a direct attack aimed at killing a certain group of people. I am sure that the pilots who have dropped bombs will feel terrible about any innocent casualties, Saddam and his henchmen didn't give a damn.
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| At least the families of the collateral damage can take solace in the fact they weren't directly attacked.
Ok.
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